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Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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I wonder what rights Rogan might have to publish these episodes elsewhere, or to litigate their removal. Presumably he didn't sign a contract saying "you can have all my episodes and can remove as many of them as you want from the internet, with zero consequences".

Exactly. If pulling the episodes is a breach of Rogan's contract with Spotify, then Spotify could be liable. Of course, none of us know what's in that contract.

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I love Joe. I use Spotify exclusively to listen to his podcast. I listen to every episode… I wish there was a way to tell them if it wasn’t for his show I’d never use their app but I suspect they already know that. Unfortunately I think attacks on his having been prescribed ivermectin and his guests like the highly published cardiologist and the guy that contracts with the defense department and has patents related t…

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Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

#333

I'm curious if he said the n-word in any of the episodes. The Rock just announced on Twitter some news about finding out just how much Joe Rogan used that slur. News spreads fast in Hollywood circles. Maybe Spotify is trying to get ahead of the curve before any more controversies break out.

Who cares

The Rock cares.

Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

#334

Predictably, people break out the C-word. Every business decides what they sell and what they don't. Do they also complain about censorship and shout at the manager of a shoe store for not selling books? Spotify decided they don't want to sell those episodes of JR. That's not censorship, it's business, and it's very different than if it's done by the government.

Government outsourcing censorship to businesses doesn’t make it less wrong.

Was any government involved in any way here?

Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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I’m struggling to have sympathy with anyone involved in this. Podcasting has always felt like a resurgence of the “original web” spirit to me: anyone can upload, anywhere. All you need is an RSS feed and anyone can subscribe. Then Spotify came busting in and decided that the open podcasting platform is obsolete and paid Joe Rogan $100 million for exclusive distribution of his content. So they’ve dug their own grave h…

Spotify competing with YouTube isn't the root problem. The people calling for censorship are the problem. This is the latest attack in an ongoing war on free speech. We are losing our freedoms. Today it's Joe Rogan's speech tomorrow it's yours.

Most people aren't influential and it's easier to keep them busy fighting on Twitter rather than silencing them.

So, no one is coming for your speech because you (being everyone here) don't matter enough.

Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

#336

I love Joe. I use Spotify exclusively to listen to his podcast. I listen to every episode… I wish there was a way to tell them if it wasn’t for his show I’d never use their app but I suspect they already know that. Unfortunately I think attacks on his having been prescribed ivermectin and his guests like the highly published cardiologist and the guy that contracts with the defense department and has patents related t…

> We’re at a very bad place in American discourse.

Well, the internet connected into a billion+ audience in last 20 years. We didn't have the ability to give a megaphone to every crackpot ~20 years ago. You'd have to physically rally people behind you, literally on the road to get your movement going. Now, Big Tech will gladly serve you that priviledge for a pretty penny off of clicks. And so will the media.

The natural physical filter is no more. It used to sort of self-censor people because they couldn't get a following. Now mainstream media is on the Internet and so are the gullible citizens. Blame the following: Big Tech, Internet Media houses (NYT is constantly full of rage, Fox too), Social Media giants (Twitter, FB, Tiktok, Reddit).

Next wave of understanding will come from in-person social life. It will be the anti-thesis of Metaverse.

Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Spotify competing with YouTube isn't the root problem. The people calling for censorship are the problem. This is the latest attack in an ongoing war on free speech. We are losing our freedoms. Today it's Joe Rogan's speech tomorrow it's yours.

Joe Rogan got paid by a company to distribute his content with the right to not distribute any portion they want. If anything, Joe Rogan is giving up his free speech. No one is taking it. Anyone can make a podcast and put it out. Zero stopping them other than maybe money to buy a device to record and send it.

This argument is so tired. You’re saying they have the right to censor, so say it.

The counter argument is that censorship is bad in all its forms. It’s one I and many others support.

Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

#339

I love Joe. I use Spotify exclusively to listen to his podcast. I listen to every episode… I wish there was a way to tell them if it wasn’t for his show I’d never use their app but I suspect they already know that. Unfortunately I think attacks on his having been prescribed ivermectin and his guests like the highly published cardiologist and the guy that contracts with the defense department and has patents related t…

I share a similar story to yours. For a while, I used to call Spotify the 'Joe Rogan app' because that's all I ever used the Spotify app for.

It's because of JRE that I discovered this whole new world of podcasting.

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