The new job that I was hired for is not the same one I interviewed for.
I've been there once, but the funny thing is that I got my next job based on the not-hired-for work I'd done. And that next job worked out ridiculously well.
The new hire who showed up is not the same person we interviewed
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#332It's like the flip version of the guy that got let go and then re-recruited for his just vacated position. https://twitter.com/firr/status/1456324664628846599
A long time ago, I was looking for a full time job and went to an interview. The guy picked his nose through the entire interview, which I thought was rather disrespectful, so when they offered the job I declined.
After that, answered an ad from a consulting company. After I'd signed their paperwork they said "we already have a client for you". Yep, the same nose-picker. But this time I would be paid 3x what the full time job would have paid.
I decided that was sufficient punishment for his rudeness and took the contract.
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#333Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't know, but it must be horrible not knowing whether you got the job on your own merit, or if you were just hired to tick a box, if a company has some cynical hiring policy.
Mindy Kaling (Kelly Kapoor from The Office) is a famous diversity hire. It's not a theory; their show used a diversity hiring program through NBC, where if you hire a white person, it comes out of your show's budget; but if you hire a minority member, then NBC pays for their salary. So The Office had her on the writing staff basically for free. The catch was the program only paid for one year, so she knew from the fi…
> basically for free
Well they got a bargain. She's immensely talented. She hates my politics but damn can she write. Her first memoir is one of the funniest things I've ever read
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#334It's not just a thing, for some crooter firms it's a business model. Gonna name and shame here, there was an outfit that was once called Unbounded Solutions, then BrighterBrain. God knows if they're still around or what they're called now. Anyhoo, their whole deal was this: they offered free IT training and job placement, but there was a catch! Oh, boy, was there ever a catch. They would put you through 2 weeks of iO…
I just found them again! They're now known as Enhance IT. Same city, too, Atlanta, GA.
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#335Earlier quoted context omitted.
"eager to learn, sense of ownership" Well, that disqualifies me. The way most organizations tie your hands means one is given all the responsibility without real authority. I'm completely unmotivated because of that. Edit: Sucks that my feelings are being downvoted.
I once was a team lead for an team of outsourced software developers. It was the worst part of my career. The whole outsourced team was awful. Wholly incompetent. I had the responsibility of delivering a product, but I didn't have the authority to fire these folks who were a net negative on the project. I would have been happier with implementing the whole project myself, which I mostly did. I too was unmotivated, bu…
You know what they say, if you can't change your workplace .. change your workplace!
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#336While I don't doubt this sort of thing happens, the following line leads me to believe that this is an exercise in creative writing by someone: > In the meantime, legal approved security to put a trace on John’s computer to review if there have been outside messages or if his work is being completed with outside help or on a different computer altogether.
Why is that strange? That seems pretty normal for a company IT department to be able to do. My employer can read all my email and chat history, and can remotely install arbitrary software on my work laptop without my knowledge.
Also consider that the person writing to this blog might be non-technical, so even though "putting a trace" on something sounds like bad movie dialogue, it's more or less reasonable to say.
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#337Practices like this are hilariously common in the industry. Right out of college I accepted a job offer at a small consulting company on the east coast. They promised they would give me free housing at their luxury apartment for the first few months and give me all the training I need to excel in areas of my interest. I flew across the country and found out the whole thing is not as advertised. Their luxury apartment…
An offer like that would seem incredibly suspicious to me. You want to pay all of this money to train me right out of school? Why not just hire someone with the right experience? Maybe it's my imposter syndrome speaking but it all feels off. I'm passively looking for new jobs but I always keep my eye out for things that sound too good to be true. If I'm not paying for training or education, then someone else is footi…
Union Pacific does this, at least as recently as a few years ago. Software developers are hired straight out of college and go through months of training before they get shown any actual work.
I don't think it's as much about expertise as "CS college graduates don't know how to make software"
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#338Earlier quoted context omitted.
> "My wife wrote all of those." There was a place that hired a consultant for a project a friend worked on, and she was... I don't think she could write code at all. Like, had trouble manually inserting fragments into an XML file despite fragments with the same structure already being in the file. Her productivity skyrocketed at night however, and she generally had working code in the morning, which lead to rumors th…
Sounds like she got all her work done on time.
Goodluck getting her to help solve an issue in her code in a timely manner
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#339Most comments here are not mentioning TFA, but I wanted to point out this line: > Their security teams are trying to discover what all he downloaded, if they’ll be able to get their equipment back, is John really his real name, etc. !! If they'll be able to get their equipment back? Incredible.
I mean, it's up to "John" to actually send it back to them. And if he doesn't, the cost to get it back via the courts is probably more than it's worth.
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#340I once hired a guy who had no experience, but seemed like a good culture fit for our company and seemed very interested in learning. We interviewed him and made e-mail communication a large part of the interview, because it is a critical part of our business. And his communication was great! After hiring, a recurring problem we had was his e-mail to us and to customers were terrible. Bad grammar, bad spelling, uncorr…
> "My wife wrote all of those." There was a place that hired a consultant for a project a friend worked on, and she was... I don't think she could write code at all. Like, had trouble manually inserting fragments into an XML file despite fragments with the same structure already being in the file. Her productivity skyrocketed at night however, and she generally had working code in the morning, which lead to rumors th…
Oddly enough, once a friend of mine was hired to work on a project which one of the selling points was that it was designed and implemented by women.
He was a male and had to sign an NDA to work in the project. Very shady stuff. Maybe the reason your place didn't care about the odd behaviors from the female engineer was because they were well aware about what's happening?