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> I find China is useful as a mirror to the US. If they are doing something problematic, it's highly likely the US gov is too but just hasn't disclosed it to the public. You think the US is engaging in systematic genocide? I'm guessing not. If so, you should consider why you would say something so ridiculously out of step with reality.
Seems my reply was possibly too on the nose of got flagged. Hopefully, you read it before it was removed.
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The problem is more or less all hardware manufacturers do that. There's variations: some bundle only the Windows backdoor, some bundle Superfish, some bundle Intel/AMD's anti-theft and ME/PSP features. That society is ok with that is a huge problem to say the least.
I doubt you can compare superfish against bloatware antitheft "feature"
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Curious because I do use a lot of devices from Chinese makers myself and had no issues so far. If it's from a legit brand, I'd need to take a closer look at their products before buying more.
Here are some pics of the box. Somehow I have the box but cannot find the tablet...but it doesn't exactly surprise me. https://imgur.com/a/wllzfvj There literally are no markings or any other type of brand/vendor on the box other than what you see.
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The next question is why are people defending China so hard here? Near 1/2 the posts here look like they’re from the $0.50 party.
Because claims need to be backed up by evidence, even if we love to proceed with prejudice.
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Because claims need to be backed up by evidence, even if we love to proceed with prejudice.
So this means we promote the positive side of a gov that tramples daily on human rights? Are people on this forum literal robots?
Nobody here is promoting anything when we're saying that from a purely technical perspective this report alone is not enough to justify the claims being made. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, but no evidence has been provided whatsoever, so it's perfectly fair to challenge the validity of the claims.
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I doubt you can compare superfish against bloatware antitheft "feature"
And yet my CPU runs its own operating system (Minix) behind my back and reacts to undocumented secret commands i'm unaware of. Is the comparison that irrelevant?
> That society is ok with that is a huge problem to say the least.
but you could compare any bad actor actions to ME/PSP and say it's the same or not as bad
it's bordering on Whataboutery
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So this means we promote the positive side of a gov that tramples daily on human rights? Are people on this forum literal robots?
Please, let's not go down that road. It's unnecessary to politicize everything and turn to hyperboles. Nobody here is promoting anything when we're saying that from a purely technical perspective this report alone is not enough to justify the claims being made. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, but no evidence has been provided whatsoever, so it's perfectly fair to challenge the validity of the cla…
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And yet my CPU runs its own operating system (Minix) behind my back and reacts to undocumented secret commands i'm unaware of. Is the comparison that irrelevant?
I'm not defending ME/PSP at all, i would happily burn the CPUs off, if I could. I totally agree completely on your statement > That society is ok with that is a huge problem to say the least. but you could compare any bad actor actions to ME/PSP and say it's the same or not as bad it's bordering on Whataboutery
Although i personally consider hardware/firmware-level malware more troubling than OS-level malware which you can just wipe away by setting up a fresh system (which i recommend anyone to do when they receive a new machine, for related reasons).
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Do western artists and corporations borrow stuff from other cultures and competitors? All 20th century rock & roll, most of hollywood, and pretty much all of pre-90s Silicon Valley is based on that premise. That you think it's theft is a debatable/controversial point of view on Internet forums, but if that is to be the case, many more people/corporations from USA should feel threatened, not just a few chinese scapego…
Um, no, there's a very clear difference between 'borrowing' ideas, building on other people's achievements etc, and outright theft, when you copy someone's detailed designs wholesale, especially from secret proprietary plans obtained through illegal espionage.
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it's because chinese goods are consistently good that anything bad is news. ironic isn't it literally everything is made in china, if the quality is as bad as you say the world would have fallen apart. It seems critical thinking is rare among news outrage these days. The same comments were said of Japanese products back in the day, "IP thieves", "shitty quality", and here we are decades later praising Japanese produc…
> literally everything is made in china, if the quality is as bad as you say the world would have fallen apart. no not literally everything. and who’s not annoyed by shopping on amazon and having to weed through all the cheap chinese “solutions”? The only time you get something quality from China is if some other company outside China is commissioning them to build their stuff with high standards. the rest of Chinese…