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Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech

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Post by MathCodeLove »

vmception wrote: post #269
spywaregorilla wrote: post #259

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Says the person vilifying someone for stating their requirement for romantic consideration is that the other person has the basic requisite for a stable lifestyle. *No I don't want to hear edge cases about what constitutes a job; the context here was clear enough.

I think they didn't say unemployed for a reason, which is why I didn't say unemployed for a reason. Not having a job is different than needing a job for food and shelter and any flexibility, the former is "not having a job" the latter is "unemployed". I don’t consider that an edge case. What I got out of it is that they had a bad experience with someone not occupying their time with something. I "vilify", or more-so…

They didn't "overfit" though. They shared their experience - they didn't say that their experience is normative (although I expect it is). People are allowed to share anecdotes.

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Post by notch656a »

mschuster91 wrote: post #43
DaveSchmindel wrote: post #21

Where's your Tinder bio in this article? I can't imagine creating a new account and publishing something obscene on any social platform today without being flagged or worse.

> but a few days ago I came to a new country That one is the key. Likely some analytics service (Facebook?) has his phone associated with country A (his country of origin), and Tinder sees the registration coming in from country B (new country). That mismatch then triggered some anti-fraud signalling.

His home country is Ukraine. Financial transactions and those representing Ukraine are considered to be scammers or money launderers by default by many banks and tech.

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Post by renewiltord »

mazugrin2 wrote: post #52

Maybe don't refer to women as "girls"? Unless you are seeking romance with girls. Either way, I'm suspicious already and can see why a service intended to match adults with other adults (i.e., not girls) would be creeped out by you.

It’s common colloquial language. You wouldn’t call your coworkers “girls” in a meeting. But you could reasonably say you’re dating “this girl I met while hiking the Appalachian Trail” and it’s normative.

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Post by TameAntelope »

giantg2 wrote: post #19

This is basically the paradigm of any monopolistic or near monopolistic system. You can screw over a small minority without provoking a real response so long as you are appeasing or distracting the majority. Big tech, traditional companies, and even government.

I know it's popular to rail against tech companies, but I don't think there's a world in which we are entitled to access to Tinder or any other company's services.

Tinder does not hold anything even remotely resembling a monopoly (no, Match does not own every dating app, just many of them) on the dating app space, we need to stop throwing that word around so casually. You're diluting the concept by trying to apply it here, which will lessen its impact when a real monopoly comes along and actually tries to control a market (e.g. Microsoft and how it's handling Edge right now).

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Post by Invictus0 »

caminante wrote: post #161
helloworld11 wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No offense, but bullshit. I've personally never once in my life used a single dating app and have met plenty of dates and love interests the old fashioned way, by interacting with them in the real world after random encounters (bars, events etc) or through circles of friends. Most of the people I know met their own love interests in the same way. I don't live in some backward country with little app use either. What…

Parent didn't say it's not possible, and your situation is anecdotal. If over 50% of people (and growing) say their relationship started on OLD, it's easy to say you're limiting your options by not participating [0] [0] https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/02/06/10-facts-ab...

> If over 50% of people (and growing) say their relationship started on OLD, it's easy to say you're limiting your options by not participating

A does not in any way imply B. I strongly doubt that a non-negligible number of OLD users restrict themselves to using only OLD and automatically reject in-person advances. OP's "options" are still the same as before: all the singles in his physical meatspace.

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Post by VRay »

Sosh101 wrote: post #150
tejohnso wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> which if I understand them correctly means that it's hard to meet people without it It means it (Tinder) no longer works. I says nothing about difficulty of meeting people outside of Tinder.

So a missunderstanding then I read it as: If you want to meet people don't use Tinder, [not using twitter] used to work well in the past, it very rarely works now.

ah, if you wanted to say it that way in English, you'd say

"If you >don'tthe way it's phrased means (unambiguously) that Tinder sucks, and Tinder doesn't work

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Post by Invictus0 »

Dracophoenix wrote: post #261
helloworld11 wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No offense, but bullshit. I've personally never once in my life used a single dating app and have met plenty of dates and love interests the old fashioned way, by interacting with them in the real world after random encounters (bars, events etc) or through circles of friends. Most of the people I know met their own love interests in the same way. I don't live in some backward country with little app use either. What…

While I'm not a big fan of Tinder, monetizing romantic/sexual interest is nothing new. In fact, it's historically been the norm rather than the exception. The "Monetization & Defenestration" approach may not have been done through a shitty app, but a shitty date can you get kicked out of a bar, a concert, a restaurant, a nightclub, etc. for no reason and with no recourse for your money back even if you've done nothin…

Who is spending $200 on a concert ticket? Let alone two of them for a first date?

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Post by Dracophoenix »

Invictus0 wrote: post #337
Dracophoenix wrote: post #261

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I'm not a big fan of Tinder, monetizing romantic/sexual interest is nothing new. In fact, it's historically been the norm rather than the exception. The "Monetization & Defenestration" approach may not have been done through a shitty app, but a shitty date can you get kicked out of a bar, a concert, a restaurant, a nightclub, etc. for no reason and with no recourse for your money back even if you've done nothin…

Who is spending $200 on a concert ticket? Let alone two of them for a first date?

You'd be surprised with what's perceived as unaffordable for many "poor" college students and early-career professionals, many of whom are helped by student loan money and the Bank of Mom & Dad. In my experience, bad financial decisions in the pursuit of lust isn't one of them.

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Post by _fat_santa »

callamdelaney wrote: post #298
svalee wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, they specifically mention that at the bottom of the screen[1] when they ban you [1] https://paulefou.com/cancel.jpg

Not if they shadow ban you which seems to happen quite often. They'll happily accept your money in this instance - it sounds like in the article above this is what happened.

Hmm, say they did shadow ban him but continued to charge him. Wouldn't they be open to fraud in this case? You could make the case that you paid for services that were not rendered.

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Post by shadowgovt »

> It’s fine if it’s tinder, but what are you gonna do when the same will happen with your bank application

That's literally how loan applications work now: banks compute all the information they can glean on you to determine a risk index.

Do something the algorithm has considered risky and you get charged more for the same amount of money another person can get. And the algorithm considers it "risky" to not use banks; if you have no history of having owned a credit card, for instance, the bank trusts you less than a person who has carried all manner of debt for years (but paid it down consistently).

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