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Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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StartIsBack gives you back the left-side placement, drag&drop and grouping.

You can do the left-side placement with just Windows 11. There's a "taskbar alignment" setting that can be "left" or "center".

It's not "a setting" but an obscure registry entry. And have you actually tried it? I did and it's a joke - you get the taskbar there but no icons on it lol. And how about drag and drop? Or grouping?

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With Google Docs, Microsoft Office (maybe besides Excel) is pretty much redundant.

I will stick with MS Office. I can use it when disconnected from everything, and (note hyperbole, but the cynicism is real) I avoid the creepy feeling that Google is logging every mouse movement and keystoke I make for teh ads. In fact I welcome my evil Microsoft overlord any day before I use something from Google. I see MS as the lesser of two evils.

> I avoid the creepy feeling that Google is logging every mouse movement and keystoke I make for teh ads.

Microsoft is doing it too:

https://www.pcworld.com/article/423165/how-to-turn-off-windo...

There's still Linux.

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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I updated to 11 on my laptop but kept 10 on my main machine. I see zero reason to update my main computer to 11. I was willing to give centered start button a try but the fact that you can't turn off grouping of applications in the taskbar is a deal breaker. If I have two firefox windows open I want to know it and to be able to pick which one I want without having to hover my mouse over the icon for a second while th…

It could be worse. You could be on MacOS where Cmd-Tab switches between apps not windows. I currently have 13 browser windows open (each with 3 to 15 tabs) and another 9 windows of other things (terminal, vscode, etc....) and IMO The Cmd-Tab vs Ctrl-Tab vs Ctrl-Up vs Ctrl-Down suck compared to Windows. I really want to easily switch to the previous window, not the previous app. Command + backtick doesn't work either.…

Hmm, I find it pretty practical, cmd-tab from one app to another, cmd-backtick to toggle between windows, I mean, it's a different paradigm, sure, but you can still move around from the keyboard? I do find it a little annoying that there aren't consistent shortcuts for moving between tabs in everything that uses them, could be cntrl-tab, could be alt-arrows...

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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That's 4 good years to wait and see.

I left Windows desktop for Linux two years ago, and what I realize now that took a while to happen was a shift in mentality: - When you use Windows, you consume the OS. Everything about it is given, all you do is take. - When you use Linux, you take part in a give-and-take relationship with the OS, because the OS is attached to a community that works on it, around it. Using Linux means that you're not going to have e…

Probably we have very different use cases. I use my laptop to browse, edit documents, develop programs and transfer/view media files. In all these I'd very much like to not even know I have an operating system. So the major difference is I'm not using the laptop to have relationships, with it or with some community, and the less I need to fiddle outside the above use cases, the more I appreciate the experience.

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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Firefox should go all the way on this. Exploit bugs, modify binaries, whatever it takes. With user consent of course. If the user says they want Firefox to be their default browser, Firefox is justified in modifying the operating system to achieve that. Ultimately Microsoft is powerless to stop this except by using their antivirus to block installation of Firefox in the first place, and I'd like to see them try that…

I mean, people already install what are basically kernel level rootkits so they are able to play competitive multiplayer games. It is no stretch from what is accepted for Firefox to dig into the OS and stand its ground

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Why do people still run Windows? Linux is almost universally easier to use now (except for a few things like scanner and printer setup), and gaming has almost caught up as well (with things like Steam, and that's if you're not already using a dedicated console, SteamDeck, or mobile device.)

At work, I can understand it a bit more, but I can't understand why anyone would still choose Windows as a desktop at home.

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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After 30 years on Windows I switched this month to Linux, for pretty much the same reason. It's great. And it feels so fast . All my software exists natively on Linux (minecraft and game emulators for the kids, KNIME, Intellij, and Blender is a lot faster on Linux). No Word or PowerPoint, but there's Libre Office and it's good enough. Who'd have thought that 2021 would be the year of Linux on the desktop. Not because…

With Google Docs, Microsoft Office (maybe besides Excel) is pretty much redundant.

... unless you want to own your own data and not be data mined.

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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I updated to 11 on my laptop but kept 10 on my main machine. I see zero reason to update my main computer to 11. I was willing to give centered start button a try but the fact that you can't turn off grouping of applications in the taskbar is a deal breaker. If I have two firefox windows open I want to know it and to be able to pick which one I want without having to hover my mouse over the icon for a second while th…

It could be worse. You could be on MacOS where Cmd-Tab switches between apps not windows. I currently have 13 browser windows open (each with 3 to 15 tabs) and another 9 windows of other things (terminal, vscode, etc....) and IMO The Cmd-Tab vs Ctrl-Tab vs Ctrl-Up vs Ctrl-Down suck compared to Windows. I really want to easily switch to the previous window, not the previous app. Command + backtick doesn't work either.…

This was the feature that convinced me to buy a Mac ~15 years ago. When I'm working, I keep jumping between a few apps (e.g. browser, emails, terminal, IDE, text editor, PDF viewer, reference manager), and the additional level of hierarchy makes switching to a specific application easy. Before macOS, I was using both Windows and Linux. Alt-tab was often useless in both, because it was flooded with redundant windows.

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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It could be worse. You could be on MacOS where Cmd-Tab switches between apps not windows. I currently have 13 browser windows open (each with 3 to 15 tabs) and another 9 windows of other things (terminal, vscode, etc....) and IMO The Cmd-Tab vs Ctrl-Tab vs Ctrl-Up vs Ctrl-Down suck compared to Windows. I really want to easily switch to the previous window, not the previous app. Command + backtick doesn't work either.…

Hmm, I find it pretty practical, cmd-tab from one app to another, cmd-backtick to toggle between windows, I mean, it's a different paradigm, sure, but you can still move around from the keyboard? I do find it a little annoying that there aren't consistent shortcuts for moving between tabs in everything that uses them, could be cntrl-tab, could be alt-arrows...

I have alt-backtick mapped to my favorite terminal app in Linux, and control-backtick mapped to a new browser window. I'd be buggered if I ever switched to Mac!
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