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Only 90s web developers remember this (2014)

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Re: Only 90s web developers remember this (2014)

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Post by hajile »

3np wrote: post #292
theK wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah this was awesome time and it did teach you more than just the trick, navigating unknown codebases, extracting the meaningful parts of a non trivial piece in f code… I really think the web community lost something with the transition to compiled uglified js and css…. Sure google will show you to some code if you manage to put what you are looking for into words but that isn’t always easy. Pitty that there is no s…

There is. Source Maps. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Headers/So... Can’t tell if you’re sarcastic or not, assuming not all comment readers will be aware either way.

Very few sites ship source maps to production.

Re: Only 90s web developers remember this (2014)

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Post by DarkUranium »

JohnBooty wrote: post #298
ehnto wrote: post #293

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Love your story, it reminds me of my first long term software gig, where I was actually stacking boxes and writing software. I was managing an eCommerce site for a local gym! Best of both worlds? I think everyone should get some grassroots software work under their belt, it's a really different experience working as a team member in an unrelated industry and providing a unique value to an otherwise non-software compa…

Yeah. I'm enjoying the current inflated salaries but this is not sustainable, and it really shuts smaller, non-software companies out of having inhouse fulltime developers. it's a really different experience working as a team member in an unrelated industry and providing a unique value to an otherwise non-software company. This can be the best thing ever, or the worst thing ever. It all depends on whether or not mana…

Have a look at the relationship between productivity and salaries, and also minimal wage and inflation.

It's not development jobs that are inflated; rather, it's most of the other jobs that are deflated.

(this is a rule of thumb, and exceptions apply)

Re: Only 90s web developers remember this (2014)

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Post by webmobdev »

JasonFruit wrote: post #100
webmobdev wrote: post #72

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That and the different colour for "visited" links. This site is a good example where a different colour for a link you've clicked would be really useful - but it's strangely lacking. Every time I click a link on HN to read an article, and come back to HN to read the comments discussing said article, I have to scan the whole HN page again to find the link. It's frustrating.

For me, followed links on HN are a lighter grey.

Remains the same colour for me on both Firefox and Safari.

Re: Only 90s web developers remember this (2014)

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Post by ccrabb »

ModernMech wrote: post #78
DerekBickerton wrote: post #65

1x1 pixel GIFs are still in use on places like Amazon where the 1x1 GIF image is overlayed on top of another (larger) image. It's to stop people right-clicking and saving the larger image to their device (because copyright). Anyways I can just press F12 and 'steal' the image from devtools, so it's not hard to overcome.

Some sites that are more savvy now prevent you from getting into dev tools altogether. That and Google looking to make the whole web canvas is a disturbing trend.

I've seen websites hijack the keyboard shortcut and prevent right clicking from opening the context menu but none that actually prevented dev tools from being opened

Re: Only 90s web developers remember this (2014)

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Post by socket0 »

One of my first websites used the single pixel GIF for layout, which still works. The website for a snowboarding magazine was intended to symbolise the curved slalom of descending a slope, and was a nightmare in absolute positioning:

https://i.imgur.com/QVcAYqf.png

https://i.imgur.com/2SDxhii.png

https://i.imgur.com/ZBEk9ae.png

Re: Only 90s web developers remember this (2014)

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Post by mitchdoogle »

kuschku wrote: post #117
supermatt wrote: post #107

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Oh yeah, i think every one did - but they certainly werent used in "semantically correct containers".

Even HN, this very website, still uses spacer gifs. Sadly.

I don't understand why anyone would consider this sad.

Re: Only 90s web developers remember this (2014)

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Post by csmeder »

My first job as a UX designer was at a company named Mindybody.

You might not have heard of it, however, they are the world’s largest provider of scheduling software for Yoga studios (they process billions of dollars in sales every year).

I was their first designer and I redesigned their mobile apps and tablet point-of-sale apps (both are modern and decently well designed native apps), however, even today Mindbody still uses most of the stuff in this article for their web experience! It hasn’t changed since they built it in 2008.

Here is an example (close the ad for the mobile app to see the site):

https://clients.mindbodyonline.com/asp/su1.asp?tg=&vt=&lvl=&...

Every time I apply for a job I worry they will think this is my work. [1]

[1] Technically I did design this desktop mobile app. The very first job I had was to adjust the colors and font sizes and replace out gifs on these pages (but the engineers and myself were not allowed to replace any of the underlying html/tables or the VB script that powers — besides a few minor tweaks).

Re: Only 90s web developers remember this (2014)

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Post by CRConrad »

orkj wrote: post #158

What about the thing that we for some reason slapped on there with pride? "Made with notepad". Remember those buttons/ribbons?

Well, that one seems kinda legit: "I know HTML well enough not to need a site generator", is what it actually boasts. Why shouldn't one be proud to be able to say that?

Re: Only 90s web developers remember this (2014)

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Post by Calavar »

Kadin wrote: post #280
Calavar wrote: post #196

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I think it is a joke. Also, as far as I can remember, you could never combine and because only IE supported and only the Netscape family of browsers supported . I think there is a lot of humor in this article that is maybe a little too subtle.

My memory at this point is faded, but I thought that was the point? You used both of them to cover both the Netscape and IE cases. (Hence, the joke, that to combine the two made you a Great Web Developer, since you knew about such things. The bar was rather low in those days, to be honest.)

I don't think so. and do different things. makes its content scroll across the page. makes it's content turn invisible and then reappear about once per second.
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