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How I got wealthy without working too hard

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Re: How I got wealthy without working too hard

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WOODWORKING costs $0?!?!?! What??? How much have you spent on tools? Do you smoke a pipe and whittle on the front porch or something? You don't visit Rockler and buy tons of gear? Where do you get your wood, as that's not free either...

I bought tools 15 years ago and I don't use them that often, so they don't wear much, and never break. So now it's mostly free. Wood is quite cheap depending on what you do (and I'm not Nick Offerman). Most projects cost less than €100-200 in materials and take 3 months, so that's around €50 per month on average. Not "free", technically, but not far from free.

Are you doing it all by hand…? Why does it take 3 months? Are you buying huge logs and then using a carving knife for the entire project???? I could easily spend much more on wood for a weekend project.

I cannot certainly fathom only $50/month for woodworking unless your hobby was exclusively turning small bowls and you loved waiting months for bowls to dry out.

Re: How I got wealthy without working too hard

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> Take a $ 500-1000 / day, full-remote job > Take 2 months for holidays in-between contracts > Do this for 7 years while investing most of your salary in a diversified portfolio. Working $1000/day contracts for 5 days per week, 10 months per year is equivalent to $217K of contractor income per year. But contractor income is not comparable to normal career income because you have to handle additional taxes and health…

> Take a $ 500-1000 / day, full-remote job How common is this as contractor pay outside the US? I'd find it hard to hit the lower end of that (i.e. 440 eur per day) in fully-remote jobs, despite the pandemic making remote jobs more common. For context, I'm a Python dev, in finance. I used to do Java, which I note still seems to offer higher salaries, but I wouldn't be tempted to return. Maybe the AWS route could work…

I'm in the UK (London specifically) and have worked for daily rates between £600 - £950, with durations lasting between 6 months - 2years.

IR35 has certainly thrown a spanner in the works, but i'm noticing more and more businesses offering 'IR35 friendly' contracts.

As an aside, I no longer contract, have gone the startup route instead.

Re: How I got wealthy without working too hard

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Yeah well two more points that the author followed but actually didn't realize:

4. Flee Italy, the most corrupt of 1st world countries 5. Do not even attempt at reproducing in a healthy family in first world countries ESPECIALLY IN ITALY (https://interessesuperioredelminore.wordpress.com/2020/11/01...). It's a russian roulette pointed to your head and whatever you do, it's out of your control if your life will be completely ruined for corruption.

By keeping these additional two rules in mind, you can live a decent life, albeit a quite meaningless one if you, like me, was born with the idea that forming a happy family is the best thing you can do within your lifetime. Drop that pal, it's no longer the right period of time (if it ever has been).

Re: How I got wealthy without working too hard

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> Take a $ 500-1000 / day, full-remote job > Take 2 months for holidays in-between contracts > Do this for 7 years while investing most of your salary in a diversified portfolio. Working $1000/day contracts for 5 days per week, 10 months per year is equivalent to $217K of contractor income per year. But contractor income is not comparable to normal career income because you have to handle additional taxes and health…

Note that the author lives in Europe (Italy), where there is a robust social safety net and typical programmer salaries are about $45-60K/year. It doesn't take nearly as much to be "wealthy" relative to those conditions. Author is basically engaging in a form of geographic arbitrage by working remote from Europe. They get to enjoy wages comparable to U.S. programmers, but get the European social safety net, and since…

Author is writing a lot of crap because every sane employer asks for where you're living and verifies it (either by bank accounts / asking for domicile paperwork / etc) to pay you a good-enough amount for that country.

FAANG companies hiring people in Italy do the same. If you can find a stupid employer who'll pay you a San Francisco salary to live in Souther Italy, then good for you, but that's _rare_.

The 'robust safety net' that you think is in place in Italy is a poor-people subsidy which is currently being discussed because totally abused by a lot of users (and it's becoming unsustainable for Italy's devastated economic situation). So the only good thing the author did is fleeing this ticking bomb.

Re: How I got wealthy without working too hard

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> he gets health care and shit for free Not free - he's (probably) paying taxes on that remote income, and the maximal rate is rather high in those "shit for free" countries.

Taxes in Italy are absolutely insane. You'd be better off moving to some other country with lower taxes, shitty public healthcare and then pay for a good private healthcare. The cost will be a fraction of a good US private healthcare (the high cost is the main problem of US healthcare, not who's financing it).

Finally some good sense. Do you live in Italy by any chance? You didn't write the usual bullsh1t like "italy has a good social security net / good and free healthcare / you live well with few money" so I'd be surprised if you were a foreigner.

Re: How I got wealthy without working too hard

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> Take a $ 500-1000 / day, full-remote job > Take 2 months for holidays in-between contracts > Do this for 7 years while investing most of your salary in a diversified portfolio. Working $1000/day contracts for 5 days per week, 10 months per year is equivalent to $217K of contractor income per year. But contractor income is not comparable to normal career income because you have to handle additional taxes and health…

eh. my highest salary in the past 10 years has been $170K and that was living in some of the most expensive cities in the world (NYC, Bay Area and Tel Aviv). Now, I'm single, so I'm able to compromise a bit by having roommates, but I was still paying over $1K a month in rent in all the places. With that said, by being single and earning that amount of money AND living in one of the longest stock market bull markets ever (and yes, those of us who started working in 2009-2010 are very very lucky) I would expect someone like that to have been able to build a net worth close to $2mil without much effort. the bull market and "normal savings" (say $50-$100K as you mention) did most of the work.

but, as they say, past performance isn't indicative of future results.

Re: How I got wealthy without working too hard

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This sounds like it's specific to a particular market (and that market is the USA). My experience has been that being an employee (in the UK) resulted in significantly more taxes than being self-employed. Europeans almost never have comparable healthcare costs to the USA, so that part isn't universally true either.

> being an employee (in the UK) resulted in significantly more taxes than being self-employed Why would this be the case? I'm not challenging your claim, I'm just curious. Is the idea that the UK wants to give tax breaks to small businesses? > Europeans almost never have comparable healthcare costs to the USA, so that part isn't universally true either. Not sure about self-employment, but American professionals take…

The UK has a progressive income tax system (iirc up to 10k is tax-free, then 20% from 10-50k, then 40% from 50-150k and 45% for everything beyond that). This means that spreading tax liability between capital gains and income tax leads to a lower total tax bill.

You also get to write off business expenses and reclaim VAT (sales tax) as a business, which a normal consumer cannot do.

Your point about remuneration is spot on. But remote work for US clients is possible and I’ve found that they’re happy to pay close to US rates for UK remote.

Re: How I got wealthy without working too hard

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They live in the UK. Health insurance is literally a non factor in the developed world other than the US.

You're almost certainly an American, who thinks that a) healthcare throughout the developed world other than the US is just like the NHS, and b) the taxes that go to pay for the NHS are inconsequential. jdminhbg gave Germany as an example of a country that doesn't follow the NHS example. The German model of insurance based on public and private sickness funds, separate from hospitals and doctors, is a) closer to the…

I'm not. I'm Canadian, and the taxes per capita we pay for our whole health care system is less than what the US pays per capita for just medicare/medicaid.

Re: How I got wealthy without working too hard

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As far as I can tell, the suggested way of working would be incredibly stressful for someone like me. First, I have to learn stuff I hate just because the market currently demands it. I can't really bring myself to do that. With everyone jumping on AWS and the latest JS frameworks, I stick to programming in Go and deploying static binaries to a single/cheap VPS. I basically only have one library in my 'npm' depdenden…

What you do is not terribly important, but your contacts are.

I had a really neat setup for developing API and apps really quickly 8 years ago and it didn't go anywhere. All my clients were getting that and I was able to get fixed contracts done very quickly (increasing my rate) but I never managed to build an audience and find a way to productivize it and sell it. Eventually I went out of sync with some clients who needed something else and I didn't want to pay the effort to maintain it, so I just use other off-the-shelf solutions.

The primarily driver in that change was that I got new contacts and working experience together with people earning more and I was able to charge a higher daily rate doing whatever needed to be done. Most of the jobs don't find their way to recruiters, they're just word of mouth and they can be quite lucrative.

At the same time, even if I was making 500£ per day, I knew people making 900£-1000£ per day. Some of them were just incredibly specialised on something domain specific (there was a bit of a stereotype, the Java guy with finance experience contracting for a bank with water to their neck and charging 1000£ per day), but some of them were just your average frontend engineer who contributed to some cool sounding famous framework.

I managed to charge high amounts in some specific circumstances where my knowledge was needed, but I never managed to network with the people routinely making 1000£ per day doing your average job.

Recently I got to those numbers, but I think that happened mainly because my circle "upgraded" (aka people who trust me got into position of power with high spending power) and because of covid inflation. Money is just not worth much when there is so much of it around and assets keep growing.

Hope you find that helpful in your contractor career.

The second part of your post is about preferences. Preferences changes.

I used to enjoy city center life as well, partying in the cool places, going at tech events with famous people. After a while going out started feeling tired, so I settled down and started a family. With a family a big city is not very attractive. I moved to a smaller city, so I don't have to drive and I pay significantly less for the same property. The events are much worse compared to city life, but all the amenities are there, walkable distance.

I'm in the process of moving to an even cheaper location, so I can buy an even bigger property and have a nice garden. There are also some tax, weather and societal considerations into that - but I'll have to start driving again. This may have felt like a big pain in the past but it's manageable right now.

If you read between the lines of the original posts, he's basically recommending to work smart so that a little of your work goes a long way economically and to live somewhere relatively cheap, so that it's easier to retain more money. It doesn't necessarily prescribe your life.

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