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Re: Playstation 5 root keys obtained

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Post by wly_cdgr »

rich_sasha wrote: post #85

Given all the issues described in this thread, what is the upside of a game console (non-gamer)? Why not get a PC that you can automatically use for other things, can play games from any vendor etc (some of the issues mentioned in the thread). Are consoles cheaper “per transistor” or sth? If so, why? Is it about the vendor locking you in and charging more per game? That would seem even more skewed against the buyer:…

Same reason no one in their right mind used their desktop tower to watch DVDs on the living room TV

Re: Playstation 5 root keys obtained

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Post by zeusk »

lordlimecat wrote: post #320
zeusk wrote: post #299

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"my" "personal" computer, Yes I'd expect your kids to have their own. And docker misconfiguration causing issues in unrelated services is one another reason why I'd suggest they have their own.

So now the kids need a PC to game, and the parent needs a second PC to game, and I'm wondering how this is more reasonable than a single dedicated appliance that costs less than half of the two PC setup.

Docker blocking Xbox chat is not a platform issue but a docker issue and OP doesn’t even want to take time to file a proper bug report so yes kids would be better off using a pc or their own.

Same would go for any console, phone etc. You can’t just install stuff with known issues from 3rd parties, not file report with any diagnostics and then blame it on the platform. Would you blame iOS for a badly behaving app that makes it hard for the kids to use the iPad?

Re: Playstation 5 root keys obtained

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Post by brokenmachine »

mabbo wrote: post #207
qwerty456127 wrote: post #65

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I hope they also get the asymmetric keys once. I'll buy the thing then. I'm not buying hardware I can't patch to have root access and run custom firmwre on.

It's almost certainly impossible. With symmetric encryption, both the encryptor and decryptor need a copy of the same key- that's what makes it 'symmetric'. But with asymmetric encryption, the keys do not match. This means you can encrypt or sign the data with your private key, and then keep it private. The matching pubic key will decrypt or verify. The device would not have a copy of the private key in it, so it's u…

PS5 is too attractive a target, anyone who cracks it will be etched in history forever.

The hackers will come up with a workaround, they always do. I eagerly await the 33c3 presentation.

Re: Playstation 5 root keys obtained

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Post by stjohnswarts »

rich_sasha wrote: post #85

Given all the issues described in this thread, what is the upside of a game console (non-gamer)? Why not get a PC that you can automatically use for other things, can play games from any vendor etc (some of the issues mentioned in the thread). Are consoles cheaper “per transistor” or sth? If so, why? Is it about the vendor locking you in and charging more per game? That would seem even more skewed against the buyer:…

Consoles are cheaper, self contained, and get away from the "yer just a casual" bro'ness of computer gamers. It's not present everywhere, but it is quite common. Works out of the box with no need to spend hours configure for max performance. No RGB issues.

Re: Playstation 5 root keys obtained

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Post by rasz »

gambiting wrote: post #276
rasz wrote: post #268

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Parent linked >$800 console

Why would you reply to this comment instead of the one where I broke down the price into core components showing that no, it's not over MSRP at all??????

How about I buy this console and you will take 2 games and the pad from me for $350 then?

Re: Playstation 5 root keys obtained

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Post by vsl »

Fire-Dragon-DoL wrote: post #297
SirHound wrote: post #174

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I believe consoles are indeed cheaper because 1. they can be sold at a loss (whether or not they actually are now, they have been historically) as the manufacturers make that back on games 2. they bulk order components and package/market them as a single piece. I much prefer gaming on consoles because I can't be bothered with all the mental overhead that comes with PC gaming. Like most of us I don't have much time. I…

I'm pretty sure you can tell steam to boot at startup and boot in bigpicture mode. That works for couch gaming. As for graphic settings is as easy as "do not di anything" (stuff is autoconfigured nowdays), or "set it to ultra then lower by one until it stops being bad for you", in case your pc is outdated. With a console you don't have that option, you would need to buy a new one, so that's not comparable.

For some value of “works”. Mostly theoretical. Been there, done that for a few years, bought PS4 out of sheer frustration.

It’s a death by thousand cuts: problems in some games, occasional popups from whatever that can’t be dismissed without a mouse, Windows updates etc. had to have a keyboard and mouse nearby. Every time I started the machine after not playing for a few days, I ended up dealing with such things for the 30 minutes I had for gaming…

Re: Playstation 5 root keys obtained

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Post by gambiting »

rasz wrote: post #335
gambiting wrote: post #276

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Why would you reply to this comment instead of the one where I broke down the price into core components showing that no, it's not over MSRP at all??????

How about I buy this console and you will take 2 games and the pad from me for $350 then?

Do they not have bundles where you live? I just don't understand why you're so offended by the concept. The deal I posted is at MSRP, if the things bundled with the console are worth 0 to you then that's on you I'm afraid.

Re: Playstation 5 root keys obtained

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Post by rasz »

gambiting wrote: post #337
rasz wrote: post #335

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How about I buy this console and you will take 2 games and the pad from me for $350 then?

Do they not have bundles where you live? I just don't understand why you're so offended by the concept. The deal I posted is at MSRP, if the things bundled with the console are worth 0 to you then that's on you I'm afraid.

Would you like a brand new RTX 3090 at MSRP? Ill sell you one right now $1,499 no questions asked. Oh by the way, it comes bundled with 3 PS3 Madden games and a banana, $4500 in total.

Re: Playstation 5 root keys obtained

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Post by executesorder66 »

BasilPH wrote: post #100
rich_sasha wrote: post #85

Given all the issues described in this thread, what is the upside of a game console (non-gamer)? Why not get a PC that you can automatically use for other things, can play games from any vendor etc (some of the issues mentioned in the thread). Are consoles cheaper “per transistor” or sth? If so, why? Is it about the vendor locking you in and charging more per game? That would seem even more skewed against the buyer:…

Some great games are playstation exclusive, so if you want to play those, you have no other option. But the main reason for me is the controller: It's just so much better than any other controller I've connected to a PC. The back triggers have excellent force feedback and in some games the vibrations tell you on what type of surface you're walking. This might not count for XBox users, which can use the controller on…

There is not, and never will be a game that is so good I'll waste my money on getting a console just to play it.

Re: Playstation 5 root keys obtained

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Post by executesorder66 »

user-the-name wrote: post #146
melff wrote: post #104

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I disagree with #1. I never had issues finding great games for Windoze.

I did not say you can not find a great game for Windows. I said that some great games will never be available for Windows.

> I said that some great games will never be available for Windows.

And even more great games will never be available for console so that point is invalid.

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