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Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Post by yarcob »

ksec wrote: post #118

HDMI, SD Card, and MagSafe. Things people on the internet inclusive but not limited to HN said they will never come back because the future is USB-C. Now I just want to know if the new keyboard has more key travel distance back to the like of MacBook Pro 2015. In case anyone wants to know the thickness difference. MacBook Pro 13" 2015 - 1.8 cm MacBook Pro 13" 2016 - 1.49 / 1.55 cm MacBook Pro 14" / 16" 2021 - 1.55 /…

> Both 14" and 16" have 254 PPI, up from ~220.

That is a very welcome improvement! I like scaling my display a bit so I have more real estate, but then the fonts get a bit blurry. 10% more resolution sounds great!

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Post by acdha »

kllrnohj wrote: post #94
valine wrote: post #46

Epic update. Crazy fast chips, 120hz, mini LED, more ports, 64 gigs of ram. It's literally everything you could want in a new MacBook Pro.

But that notch is kind of a really ugly blight on the face of an otherwise good looking update. Especially since it's lacking faceid or something equivalent to windows hello

Go back to when the iPhone introduced the notch. There were so many comments just like yours but when was the last time you heard anyone say anything about it? It gets a lot of attention because it's quite visible — literally right in front of your eyes — but it's also in an area which is dead space most of the time and the most common scenario where it isn't is full screen video conferencing, when you'll be glad for the better quality.

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Post by buu700 »

troupe wrote: post #78
nharada wrote: post #53

Happy to see they added Magsafe but ALSO still support charging via the USB3 ports.

This was my biggest concern. Having the option to use MagSafe is much better than always being required to carry around yet another charger.

Same here. I want to use MagSafe at home and the office, not carry around a bulky bespoke charger just for one device while traveling.

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Post by criddell »

javajosh wrote: post #227

It's great Apple is changing course back to where they were in 2013. What sucks is that all those laptops built between 2013 and 2022 will be dogs on the used market. For my money, I'm getting the Framework latop and I'm going to bite the bullet and run (in order of preference) FreeBSD, NixOS, or some Linux (Ubuntu, probably). I'm tired of Apple's shit.

> all those laptops built between 2013 and 2022 will be dogs on the used market

In what sense? I'd bet they still sell for more than similar Windows laptops from those years.

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Post by edot »

terramex wrote: post #228
ellyagg wrote: post #199

How many external monitors does it support? I got an M1 mini only to find out it could only drive 2 4K monitor. And the M1 notebooks can only use 1 external 4K monitor. I'm not getting one of these until I can run 3 external 4K monitors like I'm doing on my 2019 Macbook 16-inch right now.

2 or 4 external 4K monitors, depending on whether you choose Pro or Max. M1 Pro - 2x 6K monitors plus built-in display M1 Max - 3x 6K display plus additional 4K display plus built-in display External displays are 60Hz only.

Even if only one external display is run? That’s a bummer. Having a high refresh rate laptop screen with a 60hz monitor is not good.

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Post by judge2020 »

beaner wrote: post #325

Unpopular opinion: I am surprised by how much people like MagSafe. Charging over usb-c seems so ideal: one cable for all of my devices. And in a decade, the number of times I've tripped or banged on the cable in a way that having MagSafe would have made a difference is zero. Just trying to understand others I guess... What makes it so appealing, given you have to carry around more stuff to use it?

USB-C locks into place - not ideal for when someone trips on your cable and brings your laptop crashing into the hard floor.

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Post by setpatchaddress »

mgkimsal wrote: post #217

Not trying to be snarky here, but... it'll probably come across that way. Will we ever see the end of beach balls? I've got an m1 Mac mini, and ... I see far fewer, but I still see them. I don't understand what with so many core, so must 'fast' and 'powerful' stuff, that my computer will still freeze and lag doing seemingly normal stuff.

The beachball isn't directly related to CPU speed. It indicates the main thread of the foreground app is busy for more than a few seconds. It may be, for example, blocked waiting for something from the network -- which is one reason it's important for macOS developers to move filesystem and network access to background threads as much as possible.

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Post by cletus »

yarcob wrote: post #308
cletus wrote: post #201

And so ends the last of the Dark Days of Johnny Ive. Don't get me wrong: he innovated a lot. My theory is when Jobs died, he lost his counterbalance and his designs suddenly became without compromise (no that isn't a good thing). It's when we saw the 12" Macbook as the crusade for thinness at all costs (terrible performance, only one port, a terrible version of the macbook Air), the end of the Macbook Air (before get…

Who do you think is responsible for the new iMacs? They took a very versatile all-in-one, removed almost all of the ports and added an external power brick -- just to make it a bit thinner. Which is even more ridiculous considering it's a desktop.

Ok, these I find a little weird, honestly.

I guess they fill a niche for some? My best guess is that these were a compromise with what the M1 could then do. It's kind of the same reason we didn't have M1 MBPs last year. That's just a guess though.

I hope to see less-compromised M1 iMacs in the future though.

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Post by g42gregory »

What happens if you plug-in an external display? With 3456-by-2234 non-standard ratio (neither 16:9 nor 16:10), will there be black bars on the sides when you mirror screens? If you don't mirror screens, the MacOS still does not rescale DPIs properly (unless it's Apple's own $4,999 retina monitor).
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