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Re: Our fridge just emailed us to say we opened its door too many times

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How do you know that I would save peanuts while someone else has to pay disproportionately more? I already get a decent chunk of change ($700) just for annual preventative physical, flu shot, dental exam, blood test, and eye exam, which are all free. There is a spectrum. ACA excluded tobacco users' risk from using tobacco, but left alcohol and sugar and saturated fats in? Why subsidize the latter 3 and not tobacco? S…

>How do you know that I would save peanuts while someone else has to pay disproportionately more? The point is, no insurance is just going to say you pay next to nothing because of... Instead, they will say you are in the lowest risk category, and here's your rate. >Why subsidize the latter 3 and not tobacco? Big Tobacco was sued and lost in court, so they are easy to "pick on". Nobody has sued Big Sugar. We've alrea…

>The point is, no insurance is just going to say you pay next to nothing because of... Instead, they will say you are in the lowest risk category, and here's your rate.

It was never claimed that the insurance would cost nothing. There are, of course, uncountable health risks that are still in play.

>Big Tobacco was sued and lost in court, so they are easy to "pick on". Nobody has sued Big Sugar.

I do not know what this has to do with anything, nor what "sued in court" means as specific lawsuits have specific claims. It is correct that tobacco was separated probably because, politically, it is difficult to argue that people should pay for other people's smoking. And that is my point, that the risks we choose to subsidize and not subsidize are based on politics.

Hence, alcohol and sugar get a pass because lots of voters like those and want the smaller portion of people who do not consume as much alcohol and sugar to pick up the tab for those who cannot. Smokers do not have the numbers to result in sufficient political power to force others to pick up that tab.

>We've already seen what strict rules on alcohol does to the country, and doubtful anyone is ready to do that again.

I never claimed society should stop anyone from consuming alcohol or sugar.

Re: Our fridge just emailed us to say we opened its door too many times

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doot dee doot, it's labor day weekend, and I'm using Apple maps to navigate instead of Google (it's easier to activate via voice). The low-fuel light turns on while cruising along an unfamiliar stretch of highway, just as I'm finishing an interchange as I leave the dense city and head through its suburbia. I'm not quite sure of whether to expect service plazas, or just-off-exit-ramp gas stations, or what. I've seen g…

Waze has been pretty good at finding gas stations along my route and organizing them by distance from me and distance from my route. Like it would show a gas station 2 miles off the highway from the next exit but it will also list out a gas station that is 15 miles away right off the highway. Either option is up to you based on how much time you want to waste versus how soon you need gas.

Waze is also great at flickering in your periphery when you come to a stop.

Waze used to be good, like 11 years ago.

Re: Our fridge just emailed us to say we opened its door too many times

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It should also have an arm on the door to slap your hand when you open it for the 41st time in a day. I mean, that's insane, you deserve a slap. Btw, this reminds me a bit of my parent's Renault that would tell me every damn time I started it to follow traffic regulations. I wish I could slap that car and it would feel it. And then there's my father-in-law's Mazda, which has a GPS system that sometimes finds him 200…

> It should also have an arm on the door to slap your hand when you open it for the 41st time in a day.

He does say later on that they have kids which perfectly explains why the fridge door is like a turnstile.

Re: Our fridge just emailed us to say we opened its door too many times

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It should also have an arm on the door to slap your hand when you open it for the 41st time in a day. I mean, that's insane, you deserve a slap. Btw, this reminds me a bit of my parent's Renault that would tell me every damn time I started it to follow traffic regulations. I wish I could slap that car and it would feel it. And then there's my father-in-law's Mazda, which has a GPS system that sometimes finds him 200…

> full screen! Despite talking the time to make the display show you only relevant things in settings This is a long standing gripe I have with the Apple Watch too—a busy group chat can effectively DDoS you out of being able to use the thing, because notifications are always full screen. There’s also a ~2 second delay before a notification can actually be dismissed, because it has to complete its swoopy animation fir…

I'm not a fan of "someone made this art so it will play/display for N seconds every time some thing happens. Not in video games, not on watches, not on phone apps, and my eye is twitching so I can't think of any other examples

Re: Our fridge just emailed us to say we opened its door too many times

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There is usually a setting for the rear seat reminder. It's to remind people to not leave their babies in the car. Maybe the volume is purposefully set a little high to wake the kid up just in case you forget.

Do people really need a reminder to not forget their babies? From a car? What?

Fatigue, some medications (and drugs, to be fair), and stress, perhaps? Being tired or stressed has made me miss exits. Then again, songs on the radio or whatever have, too.

Re: Our fridge just emailed us to say we opened its door too many times

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>But the people for whom it would lower premiums would hand over the data, Progressive Auto has their Snapshot devices which provides them your driving habits. People signed up for it not realizing that their premiums could actually go up because they're a shitty driver even though they are "really good drivers". Once the word gets out that insurance premiums are going up because of this, there will be lots of scream…

I am not sure what the point is. If some people's premiums go up, then others' premiums would go down. Those people would choose to stick with the Snapshot device (assuming they felt the discount in premium was sufficient).

There's no guarantee that anyone's premiums would actually go down. Instead, you might find people that thought their premiums would go down actually go up because of this. After all, we're talking about insurance companies who are the poster child for fucking over their customers. Giving someone this much visibility surely means they could find something to justify a premium increase.

I would never voluntarily submit data to insurance like this. It's a suckers bet.

Re: Our fridge just emailed us to say we opened its door too many times

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I think it's more that people outside of HN don't really care about their privacy if it's not visibly being violated. From there it's cheapest and biggest wins

I talk to a lot of them about privacy, and nearly all of them do care. They just have no idea what's happening, and after I tell them, they have no idea how to stop it and give up. Happens every time.

If we're just using anecdata I'm sticking with mine

Re: Our fridge just emailed us to say we opened its door too many times

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I can remember someone mentioned an old model (supposedly possible to find on eBay) which could be hacked to run a vendor-imitating server on itself and connect to it via localhost.

A few of the Xaiomi's and Viomi's are rootable. I have a Gen1 Xaiomi and it's brilliant. I got ssh access to the ubuntu install and installed https://github.com/Hypfer/Valetudo and run it 100% local via my home-assistant install. dgiese is a proficient vacuum security researcher and has most of that stuff available here: https://github.com/dgiese/dustcloud

> Xaiomi's and Viomi's

Not sure I'd connect a device from these vendors to my home network.

Re: Our fridge just emailed us to say we opened its door too many times

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Be glad it doesn't (yet) shame your eco-ignorance on Facebook, doesn't tell your insurance company you occasionally buy bacon and doesn't call the police for you infringing their intellectual property by refusing to buy new genuine filters often enough. "Smart" home devices which are not open-source and not under your full control are a horror. I would break it open and remove the WiFi antenna if I had no choice of b…

I'm just near the end of a kitchen remodel, with all new appliances. They are all "Wifi Enabled" and push like crazy to make sure you know it. I briefly looked at it and there doesn't appear to be any way to use the Wifi features without signing up at some remote website and allowing all your interactions with your appliances to flow through their servers. Yeah, no thanks. The FAQ on one site actually says not to wor…

> But it did make me suspect that in another few years the newest appliances will simply not function at all if you don't log in, and pay the monthly subscription fee.

That's the dream. Every appliance maker wishes it was a SaaS company.

Re: Our fridge just emailed us to say we opened its door too many times

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How long until some manufacturer sells a basic fridge and then a 'frequent use service pack' monthly fee that lets you open the door more than the standard number of times a day?

BMW sells cars that need an paying upgrade in order to use some of the hardware. https://www.carscoops.com/2021/04/bmw-makes-you-pay-for-soft...

That makes the brand look so... cheap.
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