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Re: Revolt: Open-source alternative to Discord

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Post by lavabiopsy »

errantspark wrote: post #325
lavabiopsy wrote: post #242

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand, is there some reason you cannot idle in a Matrix room? Again I don't know, but for the sake of discussion it would be good to mention that.

I very much want to use matrix over discord so I went and did a cursory check of all the desktop clients listed on the matrix website (again). It's unclear to me that any of the implement voice rooms at all? Am I missing something?

I am not using any Matrix clients right now but I was referring to this GP comment by the Element CEO: "in Element, you can hit the voice or video call button in any channel (not just voice channels!) and it will spin up a voice/video conference in that channel"

Re: Revolt: Open-source alternative to Discord

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Post by Macha »

steveklabnik wrote: post #326
superkuh wrote: post #308

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It is a rust dev cultural problem that will go away with time and general adoption. Right now almost all people writing in rust are the bleeding edge types that use the latest backwards incompatible features without caring. Combined with these new features being added every couple of months it is almost required to use insecure rustc installation from outside your repos no matter the distro. Bash actually gets new, b…

Our surveys show that most users use stable rust, with few using exclusively nightly. The issue here isn’t about backwards compatibility, it’s about forward compatibility.

Isn't this a matter of perspective?

The older Rust compiler is not forwards compatible with the new project.

The newer project is not backwards compatible with older Rust compilers

Re: Revolt: Open-source alternative to Discord

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Post by [deleted] »

Macha wrote: post #332
steveklabnik wrote: post #326

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Our surveys show that most users use stable rust, with few using exclusively nightly. The issue here isn’t about backwards compatibility, it’s about forward compatibility.

Isn't this a matter of perspective? The older Rust compiler is not forwards compatible with the new project. The newer project is not backwards compatible with older Rust compilers

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Re: Revolt: Open-source alternative to Discord

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Post by Sebb767 »

theelous3 wrote: post #167
Fabricio20 wrote: post #57

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It's in their FAQ[0] as well. But seems to boil down to because they wanted it. And there's nothing wrong with that. [0]: https://developers.revolt.chat/faq/why_new

That is some of the weakest reasoning I've ever read, but... I guess I can't stop them.

This is actually a pretty strong reason. If your target is to build an app like this, getting distracted by a completely different technology which might or might not be more usable for some subproblem is the easiest way to loose interest. And without interest, the open source project is dead in the water.

Re: Revolt: Open-source alternative to Discord

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Post by Sebb767 »

KitDuncan wrote: post #110
Felk wrote: post #87

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Is it really "disturbing" if it's maintained by mostly college students? If this was done by industry veterans I could understand your stance, but the way things are this feels uncalled for.

I mean it is a little absurd, when everyone on the planet is using email, which is federated...

Everyone on the planet is using IPv4 and the internet, yet the understanding ends at 'what is a LAN and what is a port' for a shocking portion of developers. Not knowing about federation[0] doesn't seem so bad.

[0] Most likely this is referencing the term and the structural pattern; as you correctly pointed out, the concept is quite widespread.

Re: Revolt: Open-source alternative to Discord

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Post by steveklabnik »

Arathorn wrote: post #315
stiltzkin wrote: post #301

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I agree is not a black and white experience.

fwiw we are on a bit of a bug quest currently, so please file bugs as you see them and they will get rapidly triaged & wrangled and maybe even fixed.

Will do!

Re: Revolt: Open-source alternative to Discord

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Post by grappler »

HoppyHaus wrote: post #128

Finally, something that outright says that its intent is to be a discord alternative. So many platforms try to sell themselves on some other feature, rather than just being open source and self-hostable. So many things, like Matrix, come close, but lack key components to really competing, such as voice channels rather than calls. I hope this goes somewhere!

The subject line of this hacker news story says that's the intent. I just found 0 occurrences of the string 'discord' on the linked homepage and also its main github repo page. Is the project actually claiming that's its intent?

Re: Revolt: Open-source alternative to Discord

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Post by eschaton »

zorkian wrote: post #303
judge2020 wrote: post #125

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Discord explicitly disallows third-party clients, and will outright ban you if it detects API usage that obviously originates from self-bots (eg. posting embeds as a regular user). The ripcord ban might be a temporary ban more reliant on heuristics intended to prevent nitro scams like this one[0] where it performs no out-of-the-ordinary API calls but still purchases a bunch of Nitro gifts. 0: https://support.discord.…

I run the infrastructure department at Discord which includes our anti-spam engineering team -- Just want to +1 what you're saying and confirm that we are never trying to ban third party clients (that aren't self-bots). Honestly, it would be a waste of our time and basically do nothing good for Discord. But as you correctly point out, they do sometimes trip the ever-evolving heuristics we build that try to identify a…

That sounds like maybe Discord actually supports third party clients? Or is there some subtlety to this that I’m missing?

Re: Revolt: Open-source alternative to Discord

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Post by vips7L »

Felk wrote: post #238
rnotaro wrote: post #220

‎Please delete user 01FEY4XQ988G9BYFH45JKQZF5R. Can't even delete our own account....

> Please delete user 01FEY4XQ988G9BYFH45JKQZF5R .. . It's one thing to make a valid complain about there not being an automated account deletion feature yet, requiring you to send an email. And even then it's not that bad since it's literally a "mailto:contact@revolt.chat?Subject=Delete my account" link. It's another thing to make a temper tantrum out of it: https://imgur.com/U2DJwm7 Please don't be the guy that's te…

Not being able to delete your own account yourself is a valid complaint. Having to send an email is 100% not acceptable.
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