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so what? ofc Google wants FF to be *viable*, but not good.

Probably for legal reasons. Firefox exists so chrome is not a monopoly and stricter government action is not taken. Google doesn’t give money to control Firefox, they just need it to exist.

yea, that's what I meant :P

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Is there a plugin that imitates Chrome's tab groups? I tried tree style tab but it's not the same.

I don’t know about Chrome tab groups, but I use the Panorama FF plugin for tab groups. I gives a virtual page that you can add group containers and put tabs in them. When you switch groups, the tabs in the window switch to those tabs. I setup groups for each of my projects and this lets me switch project contexts quickly.

Yep, it's very similar to how chrome tab groups, thanks.

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There's no reason to dig up every opinion on Earth just so you can maintain neutrality between all of them. Brendan Eich is surprisingly un-cancelled for a guy who thinks his employees shouldn't be able to visit their spouses dying in hospitals[1]. He's literally still around. [1] Which happened a lot during the AIDS pandemic and was essentially the purpose of the gay marriage campaign. It was actually relatively cul…

I doubt any of this is true. If that was the reason, why not demonstrate for the right to visit? It is often a negative stereotype that gay people want to live in communes. > Brendan Eich is surprisingly un-cancelled No, he was cancelled by Mozilla for something that has nothing to do with his work. The company lost a lot of goodwill because of that. Liberals too btw. If you preach tolerance and pull stuff like this,…

I’m tribeless, just an American in the age old traditional sense, willing to walk away from any tribe, my only issue is worker's rights, and I also think it was a bad look on Mozilla's part.

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I noticed in the comments below how somebody mentioning Firefox's limited market share was heavily downvoted. I'm a Firefox user since forever, and will keep using it. I also want Mozilla to win, and strongly empathize with their engineers whom are trying to make the best of it. That said, I think the reality check should not be avoided. There is no good in do-good software without reach. Based on statcounter, Firefo…

As a side note, I don't understand why nobody uses Firefox on Android. It's an excellent browser, has ublock which is fairly rare on mobile. Why not use it?

With great sadness I've started switching to Vivaldi, which also has ad blocking on Android.

The combination of the big Android update and now the proton UI on desktop has finally pushed me over the edge. I've been a loyal Firefox defender since the mid-2000s but I don't understand what Mozilla are doing any more.

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The alternative to Google, ads, monopolies and crony capitalism is not blindly supporting Firefox, Postgres etc. I think the HN crowd have to invest in learning macroeconomics, philosophy and politics. And a visit to small and medium enterprises in developing countries who rely on these ads for increasing their reach for the lack of better marketplace presence or bad governments. Travel a bit. Meet a few more people. Perhaps a few courses and then use that to lobby local politics and contribute to value driven education at the grassroots level. Support economic reforms. The problem is deeper. If you’re throwing frustration at Google by recommending people to use Firefox, you’re doing it wrong.

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Compared to Chrome, Firefox lacks two features for me 1. Native Tab search https://youtu.be/HmWqo4X2IB8 2. Ability to remember my CC details The feature that Firefox has that my workflow can't live without is simply `Ctrl-Tab` to move quickly between two tabs.

Turn on "Ctrl+Tab cycles through tabs in recently used order"

Tabby also has some useful features - you can set a shortcut for last used tab - https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tabby-window-...

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Excited that there's more progress being done in implementing proper site isolation. Would be great to not feel like I'm losing something in sticking with FF over Chromium-based browsers.

Does Chrome have better site isolation?

This article (https://madaidans-insecurities.github.io/firefox-chromium.ht...) by madaidan goes into quite a bit of detail regarding the security of the two browsers. Things are improving on FF, though.

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Vivaldi.

That's still Chromium. I care more about avoiding a browser monoculture than I care about dick-measuring the corporate ethics of the three remaining companies which actually maintain actual browser engines. People might hate Safari but with Firefox slowly retreating into obscurity, Safari looks to be the final vanguard against a total Chromium monoculture. Yet many on HN absolutely abhor Safari because it doesn't cur…

Safari is holding mobile apps back. I prefer a monoculture to Chrome+Safari.

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I think this a logic fallacy. It’s a false/ incomplete comparison. Mozilla is not an advertising company. They have no incentive to track users or invade privacy. Their whole ethos as a company is pro-privacy obviously. Yes, they take take money from Google to make them the default search engine on a fresh Firefox install. They are a big company with lots of employees (less as of recently) that need to be paid, and t…

Pragmatically speaking, you're right. Something needs to keep the lights on. Further, even if they did not set Google as the default search engine, surely many users would configure Firefox as such. The browser isn't compromised, but their principles are. When you compromise your principles or apply them very selectively, you lose credibility and authenticity. A fitting example of this is their Facebook container. Th…

You make good points, I don’t necessarily disagree. But at a certain point I just don’t have the time or energy to analyze and stress over every detail of every company’s business practices.

When it comes down to it and I’m presented with the choice of opening Chrome or Firefox, I’m taking Firefox every time and it’s not close.

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Pragmatically speaking, you're right. Something needs to keep the lights on. Further, even if they did not set Google as the default search engine, surely many users would configure Firefox as such. The browser isn't compromised, but their principles are. When you compromise your principles or apply them very selectively, you lose credibility and authenticity. A fitting example of this is their Facebook container. Th…

You make good points, I don’t necessarily disagree. But at a certain point I just don’t have the time or energy to analyze and stress over every detail of every company’s business practices. When it comes down to it and I’m presented with the choice of opening Chrome or Firefox, I’m taking Firefox every time and it’s not close.

I'm with you. None of the above affects my choice for using Firefox.

It does affect my choice of offering any help, such as a donation. They won't get a cent out of me, given the above.

It's indeed a Mozilla problem, not a user problem. Yet the user base is shrinking, so I'd be curious to know how this will end. I suppose Google will keep Mozilla in a zombie state for a while just to avoid regulation pressure.

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