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Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by kleiba »

vsareto wrote: post #237
kleiba wrote: post #226

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I'm not a Windows person but recently had to go through the setup process on my parents' newly purchased desktop machine. As far as I could tell, creating a user account just locally was not possible, you had to have an online account, hooked up with a valid email address. Given that most free email providers require you to provide your phone number (I don't own a phone), I had to do some digging--- all just to creat…

Can you make a Microsoft account at the time of install? I think I’m just going to make a junk account instead of linking it to any real account I use

That's what I did, but I first had to find a free email provider that doesn't asks for a valid phone number.

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Post by dm319 »

WorldMaker wrote: post #284
eitland wrote: post #170

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> and moved it for seemingly no reason There is one good reason: some screens are getting really wide.

Right, which is more reason to move to vertical taskbars instead of filling far too many pixels with useless space. The specification note that 11 won't support vertical taskbars is infuriating as someone with an ultrawide. I don't need 1000s of pixels of unusable taskbar white space. Centering it is smart if I did want to waste all that space, but oof I do not want to waste that much space.

I just can't understand how there can be so much argument about the position of a task bar. Why can't Windows just allow people to do what they like with it? I know plenty of people who have their taskbar vertically, surely it can't be hard to have a taskbar that can go vertically, horizontally, to the edges out centred.

I will carry on using my dual bar layout on MATE because I didn't want to change to gnome 3 or unity.

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Post by zten »

roblabla wrote: post #113
MrOxiMoron wrote: post #52

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yeah, no... I know a hospital that just upgraded to Windows 7...

That hospital is dumb and will likely face issues in the near future then. Win7 isn't supported by Microsoft since early 2020, which means no more security updates. Given hospitals are getting more and more frequently targeted by ransomware... Well, we'll see how that goes. There's still win8 and win8.1 to worry about though, and win10 also has LTSC releases that stay supported for at least 10 years IIRC.

A buddy of mine with a Subway franchise is finally being prodded by corporate to upgrade his Windows 7 hardware. They still have support for Windows 7 for a little while, but not long -- it's apparently done by August 31st this year. And, their upgrade path is Windows 10 LTSC, which will expire in 2026.

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Post by polskibus »

I hope embedding Teams will lead to antitrust like IE did. This is basically making everyone use Teams and will cut out a lot of competitors and other companies who have some form of collaboration built-in into their product.

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Post by jmull »

MarcScott wrote: post #62
jmull wrote: post #40

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Did something change? (Windows users/developers have always been able to use various distribution systems... likewise for macOS.

I might be wrong (not a developer), but I thought within the official stores, in-app purchases were subject to 30%, as standard, going to the platform provider. At least that's what I understand with regard to Apple and Google stores.

I see now… the Microsoft store will let publishers collect payments in alternative ways.

That’s well and good, but I don’t see that as a big deal because the microsoft app store isn’t that important.

The problem with the Apple ios app store isn’t that they have a specific, restricted payments mechanism. It’s that it’s the only practical way for developers to distribute native software to iOS devices.

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Post by ur-whale »

FalconSensei wrote: post #256
mk89 wrote: post #198

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What a lame excuse to buy yourself a Mac. Totally recommended :)

Totally recommend it too. There are a few things that I don't like on Mac, but overall, works really well. And you can have a local account

> And you can have a local account

For now.

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Post by huhtenberg »

thesuperbigfrog wrote: post #275
Aerroon wrote: post #191

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> * A Microsoft account and internet connectivity is required for Windows 11 Home setup I refuse. There better be easily accessible versions without this requirement.

There is a workaround for now: just press Alt-F4 See https://www.neowin.net/news/windows-11-home-requires-interne...

Probably intentional. They'll remove this in Windows 12.

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Post by zubspace »

dragonwriter wrote: post #265

The lack of support for start menu folders and named groups of apps probably means that not only with the Start Menu suck even worse than in Win 8-10, but third party replacements will no longer have the data available to restore a decent experience. As with the “task bar only can be attached to the bottom of the screen”, um, “feature”, I really don’t get this. Okay, sure, MS targets a default UX that I’m not partial…

It's even more annoying if the change just happens because of 'design'.

Can you imagine being the developer who says:

"Well, let's redesign that thing to make it look awesome. And well, let's also remove all those existing features, which only complicate the code. Don't need them."

Never in my life could I work at my current company with this mindset without being thrown out in an instant. It's such an odd way to approach redesigns.

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Post by potiuper »

zubspace wrote: post #313
sorenjan wrote: post #247

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> A new look task bar. Centred similar to the macOS dock by default but lacking the ability to position on any other screen edge? This is confirmed on the Windows 11 specification site: > Alignment to the bottom of the screen is the only location allowed. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11-specifica...

This is a shame. I always was the odd one who put his task bar to the right, but it makes so much more sense if you have many windows open. I can scan over the titles much faster vertically. There's more space for task tray icons and I could easily add multiple rows of quick start icons in a folder. [1] For some reason nowadays design trumps everything. I understand, it has to look good and I like how Windows 11 look…

Why right instead of left as text is ltr?
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