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Re: Brave Search beta

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Post by trts »

fowlie wrote: post #304
lowkeyokay wrote: post #263

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I mean, DDG worked fine for 95% of time, but the remaining 5% failure often led to some extreme frustration that I just couldn't stand. Is 95% really not acceptable?My experience is quite different though. When I don’t get the results I hoped I just use !g. Easy. But the result are rarely any better

After using the duck for a couple of years, I have become better at two things: - Reading man pages or official documentation sites before opening a search engine - Thinking of more precise search keywords, as I got used to duck not helping me as much as google

also: considering how far out in the long tail of search terms my query is, before choosing to go with the !g bang out of the gate.

Google I find is still better for topics that are more idiosyncratic. But the bang syntax makes DDG a natural choice as default because many times I'll want to go directly to a specific domain search, e.g. !r or !nyt

Re: Brave Search beta

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Post by pythux »

TedDoesntTalk wrote: post #325

There's only 1 page of search results, regardless of the search term. Why?

Not to be nitpicking, but we actually show up to 20 results (not counting infobox, videos, news, places, instance answer, etc.) in a single page, which would correspond to 2 pages of other search engines (they usually show up to 10 results per page).

The idea is that most people will never go beyond first or (very rarely) second page. And as said in another comment, if you did not find what you were looking for in the top 20 results, changes are you will not find it in following results.

We do have plans for a feature which would allow community-based alterations of our core ranking algorithm which might help here. You can read about it here: https://brave.com/goggles/

Disclaimer: I work on Brave Search.

Re: Brave Search beta

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Post by staticassertion »

smoldesu wrote: post #159
rhizome wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Shebangs" have been defined as '#!' for decades, I'd suggest they not be redefined.

Shebang specifically refers to using an exclamation point to define where data should be directed. Same as it is in Bash scripts, just a different context and slightly different syntax.

Here I had assumed it was a Ricky Martin reference.

Re: Brave Search beta

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Post by mastazi »

lowkeyokay wrote: post #263
zzyzxd wrote: post #46

Previous related discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26328758 If things go as planned, this may become a paid, ad-free, zero-tracking search engine. I can't express how exciting this is to me. Over the past few years, I have made several attempts to replace Google Search with DuckDuckGo. But they have all failed and I always ended up changing the default search engine back to Google. I mean, DDG worked f…

> I mean, DDG worked fine for 95% of time, but the remaining 5% failure often led to some extreme frustration that I just couldn't stand. Is 95% really not acceptable?My experience is quite different though. When I don’t get the results I hoped I just use !g. Easy. But the result are rarely any better

> When I don’t get the results I hoped I just use !g

I use !sp instead, same results and no Google tracking

(!sp searches on Startpage which in turn uses results from Google; according to both Privacy Badger and Brave Shields there are no trackers on SP)

Re: Brave Search beta

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Post by 1_player »

jonathansampson wrote: post #226
bleachedsleet wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It does not appear that they are exposing all possible settings configs on mobile as fallback mixing is not shown as an option for me there. This seems like an oversight to me.

Fallback Mixing is only available to Brave on desktop and Android at this time. Apologies for any confusion.

Why is it only available on Brave? Doesn't make any sense.

Re: Brave Search beta

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Post by lern_too_spel »

smsm42 wrote: post #321
lern_too_spel wrote: post #281

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because Google's robots.txt disallows it, and those websites allow it.

robots.txt is not a legal contract. It's just a convention to express the wishes of the site author, but there's no legal obligation to follow these wishes.

It does indicate that those other sites want Google to scrape them, while Google does not want others to scrape their results, which is an important distinction ocdtrekkie ignored for whether the scrapee will want to take legal action.

Re: Brave Search beta

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Post by jccalhoun »

I wish them luck. More competition in search is welcome. I don't think I will use it very often though because accuracy in search results trumps any concern I have with privacy online that I get from using google or bing.

Re: Brave Search beta

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Post by mastazi »

mrpf1ster wrote: post #63
zzyzxd wrote: post #46

Previous related discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26328758 If things go as planned, this may become a paid, ad-free, zero-tracking search engine. I can't express how exciting this is to me. Over the past few years, I have made several attempts to replace Google Search with DuckDuckGo. But they have all failed and I always ended up changing the default search engine back to Google. I mean, DDG worked f…

DuckDuckGo allows you to do a Google search by prepending "!g" to any query. So usually I do that for the last 5% of queries that DDG fails on.

As I said in my other comment[1], you might be interested in using !sp which gives you the same results without Google tracking

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27598042

Re: Brave Search beta

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Post by mastazi »

smsm42 wrote: post #318
zzyzxd wrote: post #46

Previous related discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26328758 If things go as planned, this may become a paid, ad-free, zero-tracking search engine. I can't express how exciting this is to me. Over the past few years, I have made several attempts to replace Google Search with DuckDuckGo. But they have all failed and I always ended up changing the default search engine back to Google. I mean, DDG worked f…

If DDG works in 95% cases, just use it and use !google command on it when it misses the mark.

or even better you can use !sp

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27598042

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