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Re: Evidence from leaked account data on how elites use offshore banking [pdf]

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Do you think monetary wealth is gained only when someone adds value to society (and in proportion to the value added)? If so, what is your definition of value?

I think money earned through voluntary exchange is highly correlated and generally in proportion with value add to society. If we zoom in to particular examples, most of them fit into this category. You pay Netflix $15/month because you think it adds more than that much value to your life. Netflix earning that income is a consequence of your judgement of the value add of that service to your life. If Netflix makes bi…

>I think money earned through voluntary exchange is highly correlated and generally in proportion with value add to society. If we zoom in to particular examples, most of them fit into this category.

When I think of the richest that gained a disproportionate amount of that wealth that left the bottom i generally think of rentseekers, people using anticompetitive practices,(near) monopolies, duopolies or monopsonies, etc Reaching that position has been made easier for many of them due to technological advances indeed but that they're in those and that they're incredibly unhealthy for capitalism is the case none the less. Also definitely cronyism and so on as you mentioned.

When we look closely most companies and the people pulling profit from them fit into this category of utilising a form of capitalism that can't be considered healthy for society at large. For example everything from intel and amd artificially extending their IP into perpetuity by strategically extending the standards with new IP every x years to microsoft simply waiting out a competitors bankruptcy in court and abusing their clout for competitive advantage in new markets, apple and google using their duopoly/monopsony positions to charge high rates in their app stores to google dictating webstandards in their favour due to their clout and fucking over competitors, solarcity pulling shady contracts, supermarkt chains pulling a larger share of profit from farmers and other producers despite reducing their value to the distribution chain as their marketshare grows,etc

When i think of these i think of people who have gathered value worth countless lifetimes of hard work to a point where it should be impossible becaused it is impossible to be proportionate. People who are generally wayyyyy further away from anyone in this thread wealth wise than we are from a bum on the street.

> and is making regular people resentful and jealous

Might have something to do with things like social mobility and such declining for so long. Capitalism should not be allowed to devolve into an oligarchy.

Re: Evidence from leaked account data on how elites use offshore banking [pdf]

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>The lower the tax - the more money will stay and will be reinvested into the local economy. The less progressive the tax and the less it's properly enforced the more inequality will occur. Poor and middleclass more effectively stimulate the economy with an equal amount of consumption simply due to the nature of what they spend it on and their quantity. >Just as robbing productive people with taxes is not going to wo…

You're overcomplicating this. Back to my point: "The lower the tax - the more money will stay and will be reinvested into the local economy." Start here. Less taxes == more money is staying and reinvested in the local economy for the good of everyone. Bonus: more money start coming in from other jurisdictions that are abusing their productive citizens and businesses with exorbitant taxes.

>You're overcomplicating this.

You're oversimplifying this but even when just sticking to the core of your point i strongly disagree.

>Start here. Less taxes == more money is staying and reinvested in the local economy for the good of everyone.

Not really. Want to stimulate the economy with reinvestments? Dis-incentivise stock buybacks and the like, tax hard. Companies and people don't like to pay taxes. How do you avoid taxes as a company or owner? By having less profits trough reinvestment in R&D, growthprojects and wages.

Tax less and you reduce the incentive to reinvest into the local economy.

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