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Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by sudosysgen »

seriousquestion wrote: post #283
pcbro141 wrote: post #228

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The young white supremacists being radicalized online are taking the bait. The bait is this silly narrative that the reason they talk in depth and at length everyday about exterminating non-Whites is because it's elaborate "trolling" to own the libs, until they start sprinkling in enough "justification" and repetition to radicalize you into becoming a white supremacists. Sadly many young men are taking the bait and b…

You're echoing and embracing a narrative of fear. Tell me, is the white supremacy in the room with you now?

I know people in real life that got radicalized from /pol/. It is not a joke and it's not ironic, it's a real thing.

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by sudosysgen »

ggvvfdde wrote: post #189
iitqkzbjak wrote: post #170

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Racism, gore, pedos, endless endless pornography... Yet when people mention that they visit 4chan, they talk about the 'very clever people posting there'. It's like mentioning that you regularly go paddling in your local river in order to collect tiny nuggets of gold, without mentioning that your local river is a flow of excrement, nuclear waste, and malignant psychopaths.

It's funny. I've been browsing 4chan all month and I havent seen any gore or pedos. Maybe a few leud pictures (less than 10). Maybe you should actually visit the site instead of just spreading misinformation.

Go on /b/. You will see pedo shit if you look for loli threads - as I assume they contain pedo images - and quite a bit of gore too.

It's definitely there. Not in /pol/, but /pol/ is a subset of 4chan.

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by matheusmoreira »

ineedasername wrote: post #263
ggvvfdde wrote: post #189

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It's funny. I've been browsing 4chan all month and I havent seen any gore or pedos. Maybe a few leud pictures (less than 10). Maybe you should actually visit the site instead of just spreading misinformation.

I took you up on that, and visited the technology interest area /g/ Post #1: Comment using the N word Post #2: Someone using "fag" to insult people who, presumably, use Arch linux. (The term was Archfags) Post #3: In response to something about headphones: "that deaf faggot [n-word]" So it's funny. I've been browsing 4chan for 5 minutes and couldn't avoid racism & homophobia in the very first things I saw. Maybe you…

If you visit anonymous imageboards, it's because you want to be exposed to the widest possible spectrum of humanity. There's a bias towards being offensive simply because those things are not allowed to surface anywhere else. If you stick around despite that, you'll realize the site has a rather unique culture. Occasionally, you'll run into great stuff that could never be expressed in sites such as this one.

You mentioned /g/ -- there is a daily programming thread on that board with a very long history. I've seen some really interesting projects posted there. Some even made their way here eventually. SerenityOS for example.

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by sudosysgen »

Zababa wrote: post #266
pcbro141 wrote: post #157

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In order list of threads from browsing /pol/ for people who want to know how 'diverse' it is without visiting: - Anti-vax - Anti-gay parents - Goose - Ben Shapiro praise thread with a dash of anti-semitism and a whole lot of "i hope all ni**rs die" - Praising George Floyd mural vandalism - Anti-transgender - Praising white nationalism/white ethnostate - Praising 'national rape day' - Anti-Islam - Anti-race mixing - I…

The board is called "politically incorrect" so of course that's what you'll find here. /pol/ is often referred as a "containement board", which means a board made so that people stop discussing certain topics in other boards while using the excuse that they don't have anywhere else to go. This way, other boards aren't polluted by things that people are fed up with. In some way it's a bit like a trashcan, once trash h…

/pol/ and /b/ are basically half of 4chan today. It's now less a trashcan are more like the country becoming a dumpster.

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by throw7 »

solosoyokaze wrote: post #307
Thorentis wrote: post #304

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I think you are the one doing the conflating. You've jumped from "these words are sometimes used" to "these words are used solely for the purpose of expressing racist and homophobic feelings".

> "these words are used solely for the purpose of expressing racist and homophobic feelings". There's no other way to use these words. They're always racist and homophobic. That's the point, /pol is a cesspool of racism and homophobia.

> There's no other way to use these words.

Try to step back and move into another level.

What are words?

What is this "vibration of air molecules" hitting my ear?

What is the meaning behind them?

Why so?

Do these certain "frequencies" always mean a certain meaning? Always?

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by HKH2 »

okareaman wrote: post #233
pcbro141 wrote: post #212

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I didn't 'take the bait', what you're doing is gaslighting. It's not that I'm a 'snowflake' or 'I don't understand chan humor', what they're doing is actually fucked up and dangerous even if they justify it as 'trolling' or 'irony' that should be ignored. There is nothing normal about that boards pre-occupation with calling for racial extermination. I don't give a damn if they're posting that 'ironically', there is n…

Do you understand the concept of a "containment board"? Because that's basically what 4chan is. Everyone there is aware that "3 letter" agencies are monitoring. https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Containment%...

Do you mean that's what /pol/ is?

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by ineedasername »

Blikkentrekker wrote: post #318
ineedasername wrote: post #315

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> I don't know what land you're in if it's a place where calling someone a "fa--ot [n-word]" doesn't get categorized into some sort of hate speech. This is the main point of contention. No one denies that such words are a common occurrence on 4chan , but you believe these words are automatically indicative of racism. Are you open to the idea that someone who refers to himself as “an Archfag” is simply communicating o…

I don't have anything to say about people that uses a slurs against themselves because that isn't what I saw in 4Chan. It was someone calling other people "Archfags" as an insult, and each of the other examples I cited were used as insults. I've checked /g/ a few times since I posted my original comment to see if it was a fluke, but nope: Still lots of racial & homophobic insults.

So let's break it down:

1) A person is being insulted

2) The language of the insult is a comparison to another group of people.

3) Being a member of that group is supposed to be a bad thing, which is what makes it an insult.

4) Therefore the person believes that group of people is in some way inferior, bad, or otherwise undesirable in some way.

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by HKH2 »

pcbro141 wrote: post #181
vorpalhex wrote: post #176

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Subcultures have shibboleths. In the same way WallStreetBets wasn't making fun of the mentally handicapped, it would be dangerous to take any chan at face value. Shibboleths exist to exclude people outside the subculture stereotype - and a good way of doing that is to be offensive. Some subcultures desire to remain as subcultures. Part of why shibboleths work is because we as a species tend to stop engaging rationall…

> The 4chan shibboleth attacks everyone I see plenty of posts attacking and calling for the killing and complete extermination of non-Whites, Jews, homosexuals, and women all over the place but 0 posts attacking straight white males for being straight white males. Gee, I wonder why that is? I really wonder who is posting all these white nationalist talking points, it's truly a mystery. Could be anyone.

The status quo gives those classes protection, so they're easy targets for offense.

It's not much fun trolling in alignment with the status quo. People already consider it passe.

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by throwaway0xa »

ineedasername wrote: post #337
Blikkentrekker wrote: post #318

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> I don't know what land you're in if it's a place where calling someone a "fa--ot [n-word]" doesn't get categorized into some sort of hate speech. This is the main point of contention. No one denies that such words are a common occurrence on 4chan , but you believe these words are automatically indicative of racism. Are you open to the idea that someone who refers to himself as “an Archfag” is simply communicating o…

I don't have anything to say about people that uses a slurs against themselves because that isn't what I saw in 4Chan. It was someone calling other people "Archfags" as an insult, and each of the other examples I cited were used as insults. I've checked /g/ a few times since I posted my original comment to see if it was a fluke, but nope: Still lots of racial & homophobic insults. So let's break it down: 1) A person…

>1) A person is being insulted

You got this wrong, it's not an insult. Somethingfag such as "oldfag", "newfag", "Archfag", etc. are not insults whatsoever. They're shibboleth terms for "old users", "new users", "Arch users".

Your entire premise is incorrect.

>2) The language of the insult is a comparison to another group of people.

No one is being insulted, so this point is also wrong.

>3) Being a member of that group is supposed to be a bad thing, which is what makes it an insult.

You're projecting here big time. No one there is tying any negativity or positivity to the "fag" suffix, only you are.

>4) Therefore the person believes that group of people is in some way inferior, bad, or otherwise undesirable in some way.

Nonsensical since nothing is being tied to inferiority, "badness", or anything undesirable.

You still don't get it.

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by ineedasername »

throw7 wrote: post #335
solosoyokaze wrote: post #307

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "these words are used solely for the purpose of expressing racist and homophobic feelings". There's no other way to use these words. They're always racist and homophobic. That's the point, /pol is a cesspool of racism and homophobia.

> There's no other way to use these words. Try to step back and move into another level. What are words? What is this "vibration of air molecules" hitting my ear? What is the meaning behind them? Why so? Do these certain "frequencies" always mean a certain meaning? Always?

I don't think that analyzing racial slurs at the level molecular interactions is a useful exercise in understanding racism or hate speech.
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