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Re: India’s second wave

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Post by ceejayoz »

simplerman wrote: post #191
esperent wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I live in a less developed part of the world - Vietnam - and the government and people have been incredibly successful in controlling the virus here. Aside from two short lockdowns of a couple of weeks, my life has barely been affected (except for the lack of tourists and the fact I can't travel outside the country). Local tourism and business seems to be booming. Meanwhile I hear all the stories from back home in Eu…

> The only frustrating thing is how clearly it's been highlighted that the rich and powerful countries get all the vaccines and we'll only get them here once everyone in the west has been vaccinated three times over. Shouldn't countries that developed vaccines should take care of their citizens first?

That's one take, but not all endorse it.

"Which approach leads to the least dead people globally?" is another potential way of looking at things.

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Post by vram22 »

lolthishuman wrote: post #153
vram22 wrote: post #149

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The guideline is: your mask protects me, and my mask protects you. From what I read earlier, when COVID19 was new, the guideline is based on the physics of masks and airflow, and how masks reduce transmission of the virus via speaking, sneezing and coughing.

So based on a belief you don’t actually understand. Got it.

Fool or troll or prejudiced frigtard that you undoubtedly are, where, above, have I said that I don't understand it? If I haven't said it, it is your wrong understanding or claim (unless there is good evidence), which is why I 'decorated' you with those above adjectives :), just as you implied wrong shit about me. Dry up and blow away, weakling. Don't pollute this space for your pathetic ego-boosting kicks.

Update: Also, as I've said many times on Twitter (as @vasudevram), "Bullies are always cowards". You are using a throwaway HN id, I see, ha ha, to escape the result of your trolling or hate-spewing actions.

Re: India’s second wave

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Post by vram22 »

vram22 wrote: post #149
hesarenu wrote: post #120

Wearing mask might just delay getting the infection. I wore mask all the time, wfh and go out only for groceries, still got infected. And when the CM gets Covid a second time after vaccination anyone can get it even with mask or vaccination.

The guideline is: your mask protects me, and my mask protects you. From what I read earlier, when COVID19 was new, the guideline is based on the physics of masks and airflow, and how masks reduce transmission of the virus via speaking, sneezing and coughing.

So, by the quick probably prejudiced knee-jerk downvotes for a factual statement, I can see that anti-science (or maybe even anti-minority community)? types on HN are alive and buzzing, in their cesspools. Sharing this subthread on Twitter, so more people can see the fun and filth.

Re: India’s second wave

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Post by vmception »

saas_sam wrote: post #275
hunter-2 wrote: post #44

The fact that the official numbers are through the roof tell you how bad the unofficial (and real) numbers are. In the past week, there have been reports from several cities where the number of Covid deaths are measured in single digits - yet crematoriums are so full that people have started cremating their dead ones on sidewalks.

I remember the same exact thing being said about Wuhan. That urns were completely sold out, that the gov't was covering it up, just terrible. To date China insists less than 5,000 people died of Covid, though and all of that was conspiracy talk.

Crematorium's in Los Angeles had to get the smog pollution limit lifted so they could cremate more

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2021/0...

so this suggests that its not conspiracy talk as all forms of governing systems around the world experienced the exact same issues

all forms of governing systems had bad data, intentionally hidden data, and inadequate forms of transparency depending on whether the person trusted that institution or whether that person was skeptical of that institution

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Post by rrevo »

yalogin wrote: post #52

This is what I feared the first time would be, but somehow the virus spared India. The first time around majority of the population was careful, masked up and stayed indoors. The death was super low. That caused people to get over confident, people believed that covid is not harmful in the country and they fully ignored it. Now there is an Indian variant of the virus which apparently and the infection rates and death…

I was traveling to India during March (Mumbai area) and immediately concerned about the lack of masks and possibility of super spreader events like kumbh - https://rahulrevo.substack.com/p/indias-covid-conundrum. Unfortunately the worst case scenario has happened and it will now take time for the lockdowns to take into effect and the cases to reduce.

For those in India, please support healthcare workers. This is something I wrote about in another post - https://rahulrevo.substack.com/p/healthcare-services-in-indi...

Re: India’s second wave

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Post by NicoJuicy »

collyw wrote: post #55
yalogin wrote: post #52

This is what I feared the first time would be, but somehow the virus spared India. The first time around majority of the population was careful, masked up and stayed indoors. The death was super low. That caused people to get over confident, people believed that covid is not harmful in the country and they fully ignored it. Now there is an Indian variant of the virus which apparently and the infection rates and death…

Still a small fraction of what Europe has experienced. https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explor...

And Belgium counted every possible related death as covid related.

Overreporting 100%

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Post by ryandrake »

majoram wrote: post #329
InvertedRhodium wrote: post #304

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would the color of their skin have anything to do with it?

It has everything to do with it when it comes to the U.S. If we were another country, maybe it would be acceptable to have police harrass people for not wearing masks. But in the U.S., giving police the license to harrass people minding their own business will inevitably result in more police brutality that affects some races more than others.

So, you shouldn't have laws at all, because they're enforced unevenly against some races? Is that what you're saying? I'm outspoken against police overreach and misconduct and even I won't go that far.

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Post by vram22 »

zhdc1 wrote: post #307
Tarsul wrote: post #286

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If China hadn't tried to put it under the rug, Italy/Europe wouldn't have been so underprepaired (well it also would've helped if the US would have played its usual part as a world leader). But I'm digressing... all the talk about our bad past doesn't alleviate the mistakes we still do today. Those are the most shameful even, where we have so much knowledge about the virus and still take the wrong turns all the time.

Also keep in mind that most East/South East Asian countries had been preparing for a COVID-like event since SARS in 2003. Sixteen years of preparation, and everything that goes into it, paid off.

The prep of setting up a pandemic task force that the previous US admin did was axed by Bumf.

Re: India’s second wave

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Post by briefcomment »

kzrdude wrote: post #330
briefcomment wrote: post #322

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Isn't cremation the go to in India, but second to burials in places like Europe?

cremation is the majority option in northern europe and UK https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_cremation...

I see, still pretty far from India’s 84% though. UK, Sweden, and Denmark are in the 70s, and everything else is lower.

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Post by burlesona »

jgeada wrote: post #259
CivBase wrote: post #197

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You can do this, but it has consequences. Money is not inherently valuable. It's a medium we use to store and exchange value inherent to scarce goods and services which people demand. To be a stable representation of value, money must also be scarce. This is a fundamental concept of economy, not something decided on and enforced by government. The money a government gives to citizens must come from somewhere. They co…

Funny how none of that ever comes up when we're discussing bailing out corporations. Quantitative easing by itself was several trillions of dollars arbitrarily invented, let alone the various bank and corporate bailouts over the past decade. And don't forget that we literally allow banks and such to print money and stocks on demand (aka leverage) to allow them to make money. In any case, value fiat money is not a pro…

It does come up with regards to bailouts. There are tons of people who are opposed to corporate bailouts and who worry about inflation and a ton of problems created by the zero interest rate policy etc.
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