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Post by gambiting »

blackoil wrote: post #146
reader_mode wrote: post #140

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OnePlus has decent value and while being Chinese it doesn't have a lot of quirks and is geared towards western markets. Motorola also has some decent phones in the budget category. Pixel a series are also great value. I got a Samsung last generation and gave Samsung ecosystem a go (smart watch, buds, TV). They do great hardware but they should just leave software alone - tizen os is a major PITA on TV and Watch (lack…

Yeah Oneplus is a good option, but their pricing is now ~flagship, while I stick with low-mid end. Right now I'll go with A52 if I have to replace my phone. I don't use Bixby/Google and have ungoogled my life by lot, maybe one of the reason

I mean, the 9 starts at £629 which is actually really cheap for the specs. The only way to get the Snapdragon 888 any cheaper is to go for something like Oppo or Xiaomi, which are not available everywhere.

And yes, their prices have been increasing over the years, but 3 years ago I paid £550 for the 5T, so now paying £629 for the 9 doesn't seem like such a huge leap.

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Post by josalhor »

Server6 wrote: post #122
VWWHFSfQ wrote: post #110

At this point there are basically no non-Chinese mobile phone makers aside from Samsung and Apple. And even those devices are still manufactured in China, right?

Here's a list: Apple – American Samsung Mobile – South Korean Nokia Mobile – Finnish Google Pixel – American Sony Mobile – Japanese LG – South Korean BLU Products – American Lava – Indian Sharp – Japanese Fairphone – Dutch Philips Mobile – Dutch Yotaphone – Russian BQ – Spanish Acer – Taiwanese Asus – Taiwanese HTC – Taiwanese Essential Products – American Cherry Mobile – Philippino DoCoMo – Japanese Panasonic Mobile…

> BQ – Spanish

BQ is liquidating [0].

[0]: https://www.lainformacion.com/empresas/fabricante-moviles-bq...

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Post by dotancohen »

mindentropy wrote: post #107
juliand wrote: post #76

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I am a s10+ user and recently I ditched all the different google version of my phone apps. I decided to use samsung's version of the calculator, calendar, files and contacts apps. They seem solid enough for me and some of them present better integration with the Samsung ecosystem . Those apps are also integrated with different third party providers including google . I still despise bixby but I'm very satisfied with…

Google Keyboard is the worst. It is so laggy and there is no way to adjust the keyboard keys for fat finger people.

Recommend another keyboard that will let me switch quickly between the five languages that I have installed, supports swipe in all those languages, has cursor navigation, and does not promote the use of emojis in conversation, has rich set of characters including diacritic marks for Hebrew and Arabic. If it pops up my selected text as an autocomplete selection that would be nice too.

I would be willing to pay for such a keyboard. Alas the free Google keyboard does all that. For me, the only feature missing is language selection when attaching a hardware bluetooth keyboard. I have to switch to the default Samsung keyboard to be able to switch languages from the hardware keyboard.

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Post by dotancohen »

arendtio wrote: post #243
thweoru23434 wrote: post #168

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Sony phones too seem to be quite underappreciated. The Xperia X line came with amazing built-in noise-cancellation, which only required a special purpose made $20 NC31E earphone with a 5-pole connector. The performance of this combo to my surprise was amazing! It matched WH-1000XM4 and Bose QC20 in home-office environments. Not having to carry around yet another earphone that needs charging was radical. Sadly, the wh…

Often it is not just about the products. Sony as a company has shown so many times what their perspective on customers is (installing root kits on customer devices, the whole PS3 + Linux debacle, etc.), that I try to avoid Sony products as much as I can.

Thank you for mentioning this. It is also the reason why I avoid Sony phones and at the time, their e-ink devices. I'll buy their dumb headphones, but nothing with a microprocessor from that company.

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Post by perryizgr8 »

philliphaydon wrote: post #127
perryizgr8 wrote: post #124

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It's on the right side. Hold it and it will start siri.

The on off button? Doesn’t do anything when I hold it down.

It triggers siri on iPhone 11. Single click locks, unlocks. Hold triggers siri. And this is identical to how the lock/Bixby button works in Samsung.

Read about it on apples website: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203017

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Post by TechniKris »

xpressvideoz wrote: post #78
ohazi wrote: post #66

I never understood why Samsung phones were constantly receiving praise by tech reviewers while LG got crapped on. Samsung always wanted to do things their way -- different (shitty) UI, Samsung versions of all the core Google apps (but worse), reorganizing preferences for no reason, the stupid bottom button placement, non-remappable Bixby button, aggressively killing apps for power management and breaking widgets, etc…

Yeah, I like the Samsung UI. I think it's brilliant to have the scroll area in the below half of the screen initially, to make it easy to touch the first few items of the list. I even like some of their apps. Samsung Health is, in my opinion, infinitely better than Google Fit. The latter doesn't even let me delete mistakenly input data. I'm not sure what Google's strategy on this app is.

This. AOSP feels so annoying to use, while OneUI is incredibly comfortable, especially showing its advantages on large screens. I swear, I often wish more apps would follow OneUI in their design, that's how comfortable in use it is.

I'm using a mix of Samsung's navbar gestures and "One Hand Operation" GoodLock module gestures and my thumb barely ever needs to reach outside of my "comfortable grip" reach area on my 6.4" Galaxy A50, even when accessing notifications/quick settings drawer.

And I could go on and on about how good their hardware is in the midrange shelf, though it seems to me flagship pricetags usually don't seem to bother HN users.

Also: if you use a Samsung, try out GoodLock apps, they're great. I don't think any other manufacturer supports completely changing things like the recents tab or sound controls without rooting or installing custom ROMs.

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Post by perryizgr8 »

mrweasel wrote: post #249
perryizgr8 wrote: post #193

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Well Samsung has the exact same setup. So why blame them when you give a pass to apple?

Samsung users makes it sound like they are activating Bixby constantly, while Siri can’t be activate when not enabled. So is Samsung allowing users to disable Bixby? It sounds like they’re not.

Samsung lets you disable Bixby fully. Users complain more about Samsung because Android users are not used to being forced by the device they paid $1000 for, it's a new experience for them, unlike Apple users.

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Post by perryizgr8 »

m-ee wrote: post #247
perryizgr8 wrote: post #193

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Well Samsung has the exact same setup. So why blame them when you give a pass to apple?

Samsung does not have the same setup. They added a separate button mapped exclusively to this feature. The iphone has an alternate mapping most aren't even aware of for a multifunctional button

You are misinformed. It works exactly identically as it does on iPhone.

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Post by perryizgr8 »

iainmerrick wrote: post #203
perryizgr8 wrote: post #129

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> Apple has never had a dedicated Siri button. Sure it does. Right side button, hold it and it triggers siri. Single click locks unlocks the phone. This is identical to how the unlock/Bixby button works on Samsung.

That’s optional, and opt-in -- it asks you during phone setup whether to enable Siri. It does try to nudge you into enabling it, but if someone kept pressing that button and invoking Siri accidentally, they could open Settings and search for “siri” to disable it, which I think is reasonably discoverable.

Bixby is also optional. You can disable the key trigger from the settings, exactly like iphone.

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Post by magicalhippo »

arvinsim wrote: post #79
rtkwe wrote: post #67

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There's decent reasons behind most of those, or at least consistent ones, a lot is around slimness which drives strength and material decisions. > removable batteries Those usually require relatively flimsy backs that slide fit onto the phone. This has problems with water proofing and it's a part that can wear and eventually fit poorly or fall off. It's a lot easier to waterproof/resist a phone when you can seal the…

All these talk about waterproofing and I never heard one person decide to actually take advantage of that feature. I am definitely on the cynical side of thinking that it was just marketing spin to justify taking away features to increase profits.

I take advantage of that all the time. I lost two mobile phones to rain before I decided I'll never buy a phone without waterproofing again.
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