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Post by m0dest »

jpdaigle wrote: post #216
codys wrote: post #63

While it's good that this is finally being provided, it's still somewhat amazing that there isn't any documented API to interact with iCloud. One can of course, on Apple hardware, use apple proprietary APIs to do some things. Or one can use the iCloudJs stuff from a webpage. But there's not an official/documented way to, say, write a program that runs on a Linux server to mirror photos in iCloud to disk (or access an…

Oh yes. I'd love to be able to hook up Google Assistant devices to my iCloud reminders lists, so that "remind me tomorrow to call the doctor" spoken to the Google Home would just nicely become an iOS reminder.

You can set this up with IFTTT.

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Post by 29083011397778 »

wave100 wrote: post #134
kitsunesoba wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's interesting to watch consumer behaviour around Telegram's growth and how much value people place on preserving conversation history at the expense of security and privacy. Persistent, multi-device conversation history might not seem valuable at first glance, but I can say that it's saved me a lot of trouble numerous times. In theory one could back up important messages from WhatsApp/Signal as they show up, but…

I'm not sure if this is a feature I got grandfathered into, but I've got WhatsApp set to back my messages up to Google Drive every week. On my Android phone, the setting is in settings -> chats -> chat backup.

It's something they still push aggressively - on Android. For iOS, I believe they use iCloud, and only iCloud; this means you can switch between Android handsets, or Apple handsets, but not Android to Apple (or vice-versa).

Note that this is based off what I've seen and heard from others, however - I've never actually owned an iPhone to test this.

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Post by rukshn »

upbeat_general wrote: post #324
systemvoltage wrote: post #321

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then why do we care what runs behind the GUI? that's Apple's business. Can you imagine being the responsible engineer developing this capability and having the burden of a 2 trillion dollar company's reputation if something happens and photos of millions of people are leaked!? This is what I mean by how people are out of touch with reality. Any fuckups would destroy Apple forever. They're not going to listen to some…

I agree that lots of HN is out of touch but rsync is a very robust and widely used tool. Furthermore, i don’t see the privacy implications as it’s a client side tool so while it could fuck up downloading I don’t see how it could leak photos. If it were to break, it would just be another piece of buggy apple software of which there are many.

Jumping on to discussion here, I'm an HN user and I know somewhat tech. Maybe not as good as a FAANG engineer here, but still I can call myself above average when it comes to other regular Apple users.

Even I haven't used rsync in my life, and I can guarantee that regular users don't even know what rsync even means.

They only need a place to backup their photos, and a way to easily transfer them between services, which apple provides.

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Post by vincnetas »

darren_ wrote: post #314
ocdtrekkie wrote: post #154

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I am pretty sure this project is purpose built to keep your data amongst the big tech oligopoly. You exercising your freedom is no good for anyone.

Or you could read DTP site instead of axe-grinding "DTP is an open source project centered around the idea that less-resourced companies can use and build on the common models and codebase developed by the community of contributors. All companies are welcome to participate." https://datatransferproject.dev/faq or you could look at the source and see such big tech oligopolists as 'mastodon' and 'rememberthemilk' https…

Checked the home page it says "This approach encourages companies to continue to support data portability, knowing that their proprietary technologies are not threatened by data portability requirements. For a detailed taxonomy of such data, see ISO/IEC 19944:2017."

Went to look for ISO standart, and founs out thet it's status is "Withdrawn"

https://www.iso.org/standard/66674.html

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Post by dartharva »

29083011397778 wrote: post #333
wave100 wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure if this is a feature I got grandfathered into, but I've got WhatsApp set to back my messages up to Google Drive every week. On my Android phone, the setting is in settings -> chats -> chat backup.

It's something they still push aggressively - on Android. For iOS, I believe they use iCloud, and only iCloud; this means you can switch between Android handsets, or Apple handsets, but not Android to Apple (or vice-versa). Note that this is based off what I've seen and heard from others, however - I've never actually owned an iPhone to test this.

And the backups are not inter-operable. A backup taken on Android cannot be transferred and restored on an iPhone, and vice versa.

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Post by dartharva »

krrrh wrote: post #55
dartharva wrote: post #31

Unrelated, but this reminds me of a recent incident. A friend came over to me asking for help transferring his WhatsApp chats from his old iPhone to his new Android phone. Turns out there is no official/practical way to do that, and he lost all hos chat and media records made across years (WhatsApp is the main mode of communication here, it's like opening up your official mail inbox one day and finding it completely…

It's interesting to watch consumer behaviour around Telegram's growth and how much value people place on preserving conversation history at the expense of security and privacy. Even people who are aware that e2e encryption is only enabled on Telegram when you explicitly open a private chat soon abandon it because it lacks multi-device support which makes it easy to miss messages. WhatsApp has always simplified their…

Indeed, Telegram's appeal comes more from its superior feature set than privacy. It is very convenient to have everything backed up server-side and seamlessly run the same chat app on as many and as various devices as you wish.

>For your friend's sake, the app Anytrans claims to be able to backup and restore WhatsApp between platforms. I haven't tried it for that, but it might be worth checking out. It's part of Setapp.

We tried that and a number of other apps, even a paid one. It apparently only worked with older versions of WhatsApp.

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Post by nelox »

dangwu wrote: post #36
BugsJustFindMe wrote: post #2

This article is a little weird. The title is actually "Transfer a copy of your iCloud Photos collection to another service " but then the small print says "...to Google Photos." It seems like they plan to support migrating to other services at some point but not yet? It also only allows customers from a small fraction of countries to use this, which I really don't get. Maybe those are all the places iCloud Photos and…

It's the first part of the Data Transfer Project - an initiative between major online service providers to provide an easy way to transfer data between their services.

AKA the Anti Anti-Trust Project

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Post by dbt00 »

vincnetas wrote: post #335
darren_ wrote: post #314

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or you could read DTP site instead of axe-grinding "DTP is an open source project centered around the idea that less-resourced companies can use and build on the common models and codebase developed by the community of contributors. All companies are welcome to participate." https://datatransferproject.dev/faq or you could look at the source and see such big tech oligopolists as 'mastodon' and 'rememberthemilk' https…

Checked the home page it says "This approach encourages companies to continue to support data portability, knowing that their proprietary technologies are not threatened by data portability requirements. For a detailed taxonomy of such data, see ISO/IEC 19944:2017." Went to look for ISO standart, and founs out thet it's status is "Withdrawn" https://www.iso.org/standard/66674.html

It's been revised and updated, yes, that means the document is withdrawn but the standard lives on in 19944-1:2020.

"This first edition of ISO/IEC 19944-1, along with ISO/IEC 19944-21 cancels and replaces ISO/IEC 19944:2017, which has been technically revised. The main changes compared to the previous edition are as follows:

— provides additional material which principally deals with organizational data and the need to treat some organizational data in particular ways in order to ensure confidentiality, integrity and so on,

— the new concept of data facets is introduced and data facets are used to extend the expressiveness of data use statements, including adding the concept of which individuals or organizations have control over data,

— the new data use categories are introduced, including some that address the newer uses of data associated with artificial intelligence systems.

A list of all parts in the ISO/IEC 19944 series can be found on the ISO website."

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