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I generally agree that information from here related to the attack is in the public interest. But this is going to also reveal people who had no part of it. I don't think it's fair to justify revealing innocent peoples data.
Why are we always asked to care about awful people who would happily see us all dead?
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> the biggest attack on the US since 9/11 This is an absolutely disgusting and disgraceful thing to say.
So you can name a bigger attack on the US that has happened in the last 20 years? Far fewer lives were lost, but the impact and implications of this are on par.
Nothing like 9/11 or the OKC bombing has happened in the last 19 years; full stop.
I have lived in DC my whole life, I hate to see this happening in my city, but we can be honest with ourselves.
Wiki says Parler is a team of 30 people, So realistically, does that mean like 10 devs running a social network with 5-10 million users? I imagine its pretty ceazy there right now after getting booted off AWS, google just banned u off play store, so cant use them, i assume they cant use microsoft because theyll ban them there as well, it would be cool to see if they are able to get things up and running again. (Ive n…
What I don't understand is: if you're going to host something like Parler, knowing that it is extremely controversial, why wouldn't you host it yourselves? The money they would have saved over using AWS (at the scale quoted in the previous comments) could have paid for the servers and the people to manage them. I suppose the deplatformers would have just gone after whatever data center they used, though, or if they'd…
Running a datacenter, especially at scale, is expensive as hell. Cloud is also expensive, but in return you get the ability to not need to think about hardware anymore. Prior to last week they probably assumed that AWS et. al. wouldn't have just suddenly cut them off, so they didn't factor in that risk except as a distant possibility. Up until a week ago we all were scared of FAATG's power after all and people were still talking about breaking them up.
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> media told me I create a Parler account myself out of curiosity's sake. The platform had basically no moderation, and was rife with open calls to violence. It was absolutely serving as a recruitment & coordination site for domestic terrorism.
Didn't we learn from 4/8chan that letting people post whatever they want (semi-)anonymously leads to disgusting behavior?
I tried to access some of this - went to: https://donk.sh/06d639b2-0252-4b1e-883b-f275eff7e792 Picked a URL from one of the files - eg.: https://parler.com/post/c86aa37121374606aa63439ff15362aa And put that into archive.is - eg.: https://web.archive.org/web/20210110213100/https://parler.co... All just seems to be Parler "tweets"; not particular interesting.
Let me be clear; nothing there that you could not find by just browsing Parler. Maybe there is a deleted post somewhere and that could be interesting but since it is not marked and there a millions of URLs it is kind of useless.
Where are the comments about how awful it is for people's private messages to be leaked? Or is this okay because the media told me these guys are the bad guys.
> media told me I create a Parler account myself out of curiosity's sake. The platform had basically no moderation, and was rife with open calls to violence. It was absolutely serving as a recruitment & coordination site for domestic terrorism.
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There's a surprising amount of insecure code in the wild; and naive engineers who are willingly ignorant in their security practices. I'd assume that Parler's engineers motivations had more to do with politics than providing a secure platform for protecting dissidents under duress. (Or, if we look at the history of a recent major war, the mediocre engineers working for the other side thought they were the good guys.)
To be fair, it's probably hard for a network like Parler to attract top talent. I mean, they explicitly advertised themselves as the "free speech social network" (i.e. "all hate speech welcome, we won't censor anyone except maybe Trump parody accounts") - would you want to work for such a company, or have it on your resume in the future?
And online I think I read something about porn sites, who were working on large scale video streaming well before Youtube and Netflix (as streaming service) were a thing.
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I believe from a legal standpoint, all that matters is whether the user intended it to be private or not. It is a felony to open a mail envelope addressed to someone else. It doesn't matter that a butterknife can cut open the envelope, the intent is clear.
This is more a postcard than a letter.
The issue comes with the posts that were deleted: they arguably have an expectation of privacy.
EDIT: And direct messages, if they work like Twitter, DEFINITELY have an expectation of privacy. If Parler has a DM-like system, they are probably illegal to access.
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My impressions is that everyone whinging about privacy with regards to giving seditionists and terrorists a space to coordinate and share misinformation after the biggest attack on the US since 9/11 are just being contrarian or are absolutist to a fault in their libertarian ideals (which I mostly share). People minimizing this attack and not treating it like a legitimate 9/11 scale crisis for the US are not consideri…
> the biggest attack on the US since 9/11 This is an absolutely disgusting and disgraceful thing to say.
Where are the comments about how awful it is for people's private messages to be leaked? Or is this okay because the media told me these guys are the bad guys.
Just call everyone a terrorist and absolve your soul of any uneasiness you have with this. Surely this hyperbole hasn't been used in recent history to push authoritarian and unethical measures by state and private actors paving a golden road to hell.