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Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store

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Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store

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Post by frob »

freehunter wrote: post #279
bambax wrote: post #210

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> I’m not offended by the word “fuck” but I don’t really want to buy products that are named that. Then don't. How is this relevant? They say the app has been downloaded 500,000 times, so many people are fine with the name. These stories keep coming; they should remind us that nothing is more precious than the open web, and all those stores or walled gardens, their "rules" and vague TOS are the ennemy.

I download and use the app despite the name. I’m not okay with it, but I need the features it offers and there isn’t a better alternative with a better name. There used to be (called Caffeine) but it disappeared from the store and I’m not sure why. Just because people use the app doesn’t mean they like the name.

You can still get caffeine directly from the developer's website: https://intelliscapesolutions.com/apps/caffeine

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Post by wruza »

oblio wrote: post #116
alisonkisk wrote: post #106

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Unrralistic violence to vegetation is generally considered less abrasive than realistic violence to animals.

And then there is realistic violence to humans but ain't nobody gonna ban popular FPSes :-)

You mean fearless bullet sponges that leak red liquid after health bar exhaustion and fall without screaming in pain, or for their lost friends, or without begging you to spare them with horrified eyes? It's less realistic than in hollywood movies. [Don't] watch real footage to compare. Realistic-enough violence games usually can't even make it to the market, except few nsfl/ryona self-publishing niches. Would you ever like to promote one to AAA-grade, honestly?

Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store

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Post by htfu »

mcpherrinm wrote: post #300
freehunter wrote: post #279

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I download and use the app despite the name. I’m not okay with it, but I need the features it offers and there isn’t a better alternative with a better name. There used to be (called Caffeine) but it disappeared from the store and I’m not sure why. Just because people use the app doesn’t mean they like the name.

(edited due to inaccuracy) There is a command line tool called caffeinate that ships with Mac OS. Maybe Apple didn’t like somebody using something so similar their system utility name. Originally I thought it was the same name, so this seems much less likely now that they're merely similar.

No, that's called caffeinate.

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Post by sillysaurusx »

freehunter wrote: post #279
bambax wrote: post #210

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I’m not offended by the word “fuck” but I don’t really want to buy products that are named that. Then don't. How is this relevant? They say the app has been downloaded 500,000 times, so many people are fine with the name. These stories keep coming; they should remind us that nothing is more precious than the open web, and all those stores or walled gardens, their "rules" and vague TOS are the ennemy.

I download and use the app despite the name. I’m not okay with it, but I need the features it offers and there isn’t a better alternative with a better name. There used to be (called Caffeine) but it disappeared from the store and I’m not sure why. Just because people use the app doesn’t mean they like the name.

Why aren’t you okay with Amphetamine?

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Post by huffmsa »

renewiltord wrote: post #281
huffmsa wrote: post #220

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What if it was "caffeine"? A stimulant drug, just happens to be legal. Or Coca? A plant that release a stimulant when chewed. Now if the app was called "Sweet Meth", you'd have a better parallel with "fuck sleep", but it's not.

There's an app called Caffeine that does the same thing. It's what I use.

Next on the chopping block.

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Post by casion »

Shank wrote: post #213

As someone who depends on amphetamines to function daily, it’s disheartening to see their use further stigmatized. For many people like me, amphetamines help them live a normal life. The app isn’t called “meth” or “methamphetamine” and it’s not referring to a street drug. I’m saddened to see so many equating amphetamines to illicit drugs, when that’s simply not the full story. This perception is exactly what stops pe…

Hah! I use methamphetamine (desoxyn) to function!

Some irony there in complaining about the stigmatizing of a drug with high abuse potential then immediately stereotyping another.

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Post by owenmarshall »

drzaiusapelord wrote: post #317
warent wrote: post #219

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In my mind maybe this is something like an HOA. Sure, your friends might love your house parties, but your neighbors have to deal with the consequences

How could this analogy work? There's no consequences to having a app with the word 'fuck' in it. Meanwhile throwing big parties obviously does to neighbors. I don't feel a lot of meatspace analogies work to things that are purely digital and can be filtered or ignored, while a houseparty with 100+ people and its noise and drunk drivers obviously cant be.

> There’s no consequences to having a app with the word ‘fuck’ in it

I suspect that Apple has done studies and has a projected “likely lost sales” figure attributable to having an app store overrun with “mature content” apps.

(Edited: tried to clean up a clunky sentence :))

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Post by outspeak »

Angostura wrote: post #226
tgsovlerkhgsel wrote: post #128

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> They kind of have a point They don't (the claim is the app promotes drug use, which it doesn't), and it's quite likely that it's a reviewer mistake that will be overturned once the stink on social media gets big enough to reach the right person.

> the claim is the app promotes drug use, which it doesn't You don't think it could reinforce the idea that Amphetamines could be a useful tool to preserve wakefulness?

If that was the case, health classes would censor the names of any recreationally-illegal substance. The fact is that Amphetamines are `a useful tool to preserve wakefulness`. Knowing that fact isn't inherently a promotion for the use of them.

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Post by pixelatedindex »

jkmcf wrote: post #297
smnrchrds wrote: post #234

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Aren't HOAs widely hated?

The HOA stereotype definitely is, but all HOAs are not the same. My HOA is generally hands off but you do need to ask permission for structural or cosmetic changes -- the neighborhood doesn't want to look like an amusement park. But, no one is going around measuring the height of your grass or other overly strict things I've read about. However, I did just get a nasty gram to take down my political "Giant Meteor for…

> the neighborhood doesn't want to look like an amusement park.

I do think this is where a lot of the HOA problems come from - if someone wants to put something up on their front yard or lawn, then neighbors can intervene and say you can’t do that there.

Since you bought the property and it’s yours, why do others get to have a say in it? I know I don’t give two hoots about what the neighbor does to their own home.

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Post by webmobdev »

A4ET8a8uTh0 wrote: post #315
mmaunder wrote: post #23

You’re angry. I’ve felt this in a trademark lawsuit. You think the world should get behind you and change the corrupt system. My advice is to immediately rebrand as gracefully and effectively as possible and use all that activist energy to effect the transition. They kind of have a point which doesn’t make them right, but they hold all the cards and you will lose this one and regret the wasted bandwidth.

I hate to agree with you, because I think I know what the 'right' thing is from my perspective. Sometimes to make a change, you have to fight and, likely, lose. You don't always effect change by winning. That said, I am not sure I would be willing to make that kind of decision.. and thankfully that is not my decision to make here. I too recommend live to run another day approach ( ala Rincewind ). ..then again, this…

Yes, you should accept things over which you have no control, and you should speak up against injustice. Acceptance doesn't have to mean you can't advocate for change.
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