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Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses

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Re: Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses

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but $20k is like, a year's tuition at a University. Did parent also rent a mansion to live in while attending?

Or like a whole degree from bachelor to masters and a 15.000$ car (in Europe)

Good luck paying living expenses for years with only $5k in one of the many European countries that don't generally provide stipends for that. I'm a student in Switzerland where my university recommends more like $2,300 a month.

Re: Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses

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I don't see why. Major consumer-grade French ISPs give IPv6 by default on FTTH installations and the router is configured accordingly (Orange, Free, SFR, Bouygues Telecom). Generally, you get a /64. Of course, when using IPv6 there is no NATting, each of your device has its own IPv6 address of the /64 range allocated to you.

And yet they are still not doing it properly: they are supposed to be giving at least /48 for businesses and /56 for customers: https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-690

Some of them give /56, but you have to ask for it (it's free).

Re: Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses

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You may be interested in jq : > jq is like sed for JSON data - you can use it to slice and filter and map and transform structured data with the same ease that sed, awk, grep and friends let you play with text. * https://stedolan.github.io/jq/

With jq and curl curl -s https://ip-ranges.amazonaws.com/ip-ranges.json | jq '.prefixes | .[].ip_prefix | .[-3:]' | sort | uniq -c

".a | .b" is just ".a.b" in jq.

Netmasks might not always be three characters.

Perhaps something like this:

  curl -sf https://ip-ranges.amazonaws.com/ip-ranges.json | jq -r '.prefixes[].ip_prefix' | grep -o '/.*' | sort | uniq -c
If you really wanted to, you could even do the splitting and counting in jq:

  curl -sf https://ip-ranges.amazonaws.com/ip-ranges.json | jq 'reduce (.prefixes[].ip_prefix | split("/")[1]) as $mask ({}; .[$mask] += 1)'
It's a super handy tool with a real language in there!

Re: Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses

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Very often your residential connection is sold as proxy to e.g. circumvent rate limits. Companies like luminati are used for example for scraping google search results and many more things.

My startup offers a residential IP sharing model where users get paid to share their bandwidth: https://packetstream.io

How does your business manage 7 million+ residential IP addresses with 5000+ clients?

Is being a packeter safer than running a tor exit node? I'd worry that the people willing to run this risk for a small income couldn't afford adequate legal defense if necessary.

Re: Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses

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You may be interested in jq : > jq is like sed for JSON data - you can use it to slice and filter and map and transform structured data with the same ease that sed, awk, grep and friends let you play with text. * https://stedolan.github.io/jq/

also someone tell them about curl

I default to wget because as a sysadmin I usually want to download a file, and that is the default behaviour. Perhaps devs default to curl because they want to pipe things.

Re: Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses

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There's a lot to be said about the anxiety of "I'm making a lot of money doing something I don't understand". I've backed out of businesses where I could have been a millionaire but also could have been in prison for violating some law/regulation that I knew nothing about. It starts feeling like you're running a scam.

For $20k a month I would have started educating myself real fast.

It's only 240k a year, which is pretty standard SV wages.

Re: Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses

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Use DNS, that’s what it’s there for. MAC addresses aren’t referred to as fundamentally flawed and they are approximately the same length as the shorted version of the address you posted.

Do you ever configure, type or have to share MAC addresses? Probably not. On the other hand, most devs / technical staff type IPs into the browser and terminal daily.

> On the other hand, most devs / technical staff type IPs into the browser and terminal daily.

No they don’t. Configure a DNS server and type these in once. Any time I see IP addresses passed around it’s a sign of broken infrastructure. (It also means you aren’t using tls or you’re training people to accept cert errors)

Re: Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses

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Use DNS, that’s what it’s there for. MAC addresses aren’t referred to as fundamentally flawed and they are approximately the same length as the shorted version of the address you posted.

Forget DNS. Use an overlay with content routing. Hierarchies suck. It's extremely hyperbolic to call an ugly syntax a bad "design". But IMO it would have been much nicer if they just reused '.' as in IPv4. ':' seemingly came out of their pie in the sky desire to replace MACs. Speaking of MACs, every time every time I see some cheap trash gizmo come with its own MAC I'm surprised there isn't address space pressure. I…

Yeah, that extra 16 bits is a game changer. The whole v6 debacle wouldn’t have happened if v4 was 48 bits.

It’s funny, there is an interview with Vint Cerf where he mentions the choice of 32 bit address space for ipv4 was essentially pulled out of a hat and it could just as easily have been 48/64/24.

Re: Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses

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Many people think they are buying some sort of security.

I don't think that's unintentional either. All my targeted ads lately have been for VPNs, and anecdotally every single one has made a huge deal about the dangers of roaming the internet when not "protected" by a VPN. Every single one of my non-tech friends who has asked about security and privacy has had similar misconceptions too.

They have to. It’s pretty much a grey market business at best.

Re: Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses

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I used to own 10k IP addresses that I sold as proxy servers to internet marketers. I made about $20k a month and it paid my bills through college. I had no idea what I was doing and eventually shut down the company, but damn, I wish I at least kept control of those things. If you want to see some sketchy shit, look deeply into what the VPN companies are doing.

Is there still a market for this? I own a lot of IPs and would be interested in learning more. It would depend on what they’ll be used for, but maybe there is something beneficial.
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