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Re: Oracle Moving HQ to Austin

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How long before all the Californians make Austin the exact same place they fled from?

Judging by the increase and pervasiveness of homelessness, reduced police funding, and rent increase in the city this is already done. Fortunately for Texas it is limited to just Austin.

Re: Oracle Moving HQ to Austin

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How long before all the Californians make Austin the exact same place they fled from?

You're confusing supply-and-demand-driven cost of living with liberal vs conservative politics. NIMBYism and desires for high-paying jobs cut across the American political spectrum. (Existing property owners in Austin, however, may be ecstatic if their property is suddenly priced like SF value... but that doesn't mean they're gonna want to relax zoning and increase density and change the shape and character of their…

No, I'm specifically worried about things that coastal California residents tend to support, beyond things like increasing cost of living. Higher taxes and firearms restrictions are probably the two highest among them.

Re: Oracle Moving HQ to Austin

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> The high cost of living in California has almost nothing to do with liberal politics or whatever you’re trying to insinuate. It has a lot to do with economic success and the wealth produced thereby. The extent that has to do with the distinctive local politics of the state is another argument.

Yes, that's a much better way to put it. It just seems ironic to me that after decades of policies leading to a wealthy California the same detractors are claiming that the liberalism was the problem. My most charitable interpretation they think recently the policies have gotten too progressive and that's causing the exodus, as opposed to the wealth causing the high COL.

A lot of places are more wealthy or as wealthy as California. Why don't they have the same cost of living or higher?

Re: Oracle Moving HQ to Austin

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How does labor law impact anything when everyone is WFH ? Also, do taxes really have anything to do with your HQ location ? All corporations are registered in Delaware.

Often (maybe always?) employees pay income tax in the state where their company's headquarters is, or the local office in which they work.

Nope nope nope nope.

Generally, it’s the state where you work.

It can be complicated when you live in one state and work in another.

But the location of your corporate office is absolute irrelevant for where an employee pays taxes.

Re: Oracle Moving HQ to Austin

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I wonder whether that could lead to a measurable decline in 101 commute time if some of their office space remains empty. Subjectively it always felt to me like some of the most congested stretches of 101 were next to Oracle building clusters, but that may be selection bias talking.

From what I hear, Austin traffic is worse than the Bay Area. Can anyone from Austin confirm?

I35 and mopac certainly seem worse than my experience with all types of Bay Area morning commutes while working as a consultant.

That being said it is common advice to avoid 35 at all costs. It is always terrible as it only has 3 lanes through the core urban area.

As for urban driving, I think SF is easier because of its grid system but I usually take a Lyft so can’t really say.

Re: Oracle Moving HQ to Austin

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Is funding a library forward thinking? Honest question.

The people are all olds who barely want to pay for sheriffs. See also, Damascus in Clackamas County.

I really wish we could choose between libraries and sheriffs...

Re: Oracle Moving HQ to Austin

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That’s only a concern if the Republican Party makes no gains elsewhere, and Florida is looking less purple and more red these days, and the “blue wall” is looking a bit more purple.

I'd caution making this conclusion. Trump was a huge driver of turnout. I don't think the republican party is quite as strong without him on the ticket.

Considering this was an almost surgical removal of an unpopular President without a total rejection of the President's party, I feel pretty confident in my statement, but who knows, anything can happen between now and 2022 and 2024. It certainly wasn't the blue wave anybody thought it would be this year, nor in 2018.

One thing I'm not holding my breath for in 2022 is seeing the Democrats in the House leverage their decreased majority into a larger majority, or even retaining the House considering mid-terms are always a bad time to be a member of the President's party. That, and after this past election there is a net increase in the number Republican trifecta States, an increase in the number of States under Republican Governors, and redistricting season will soon begin.

Re: Oracle Moving HQ to Austin

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I don't think this is true. Employees pay taxes based on residency requirement. So if you are not a resident of CA, you don't pay taxes, regardless of where your HQ is

If California can claim the work was done in or for California. They’ll tax it. If you work remote from Texas but hr says your desk is in California. You owe California taxes.

This is simply false. I’ve lived in California, been hired for a California company, allowed to work from home, and moved out of state.

The moment I left California the state I paid income tax to changed.

Think of it this way: all of the government services I use are in the state I reside in. I use literally $0 in California services. Not police, not fire department, not roads: nada.

California had a reputation for being very strict about whether you are a “resident.” But it’s not infinite.

Once you’re gone, they can’t tax you.

There are some exceptions for people who live near in a neighboring state, but work physically in California.

Re: Oracle Moving HQ to Austin

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How long before all the Californians make Austin the exact same place they fled from?

Average high/low temperatures in the summer for Austin are: June. 92° / 72° July. 96° / 74° August 96° / 74° Average high/low temperatures in the summer for Cupertino are: June. 75° / 55° July. 76° / 58° August 76° / 58° Austin will never, ever be like Silicon Valley because of this. The freedom you get from cooler weather is great from an energy utilization stand point and for allowing safer and more desirable condi…

In Austin I can go golfing on Christmas Eve and play outdoor basketball that afternoon. Yeah, it’s hot in the summer, but 96 isn’t oppressively hot and by the time you’re out of work at 6pm the weather is in the low 90’s.
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