I assume better terms will be available for Mac and iOS instances available in some future Apple cloud offering.
Amazon EC2 Mac Instances
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Re: Amazon EC2 Mac Instances
#332Earlier quoted context omitted.
"What Apple did here is create a monopoly for MacStadium, at least in the near future" I don't see what the bit I left off ("at least in the near future") changes. There's nothing structural that favors MacStadium over other businesses with the same model.
Other than MacStadium already having that business model and their competitors that are hurt not having that model. They'd need to put in effort to transition at the very least.
“Needing to put in effort” is not a marker of anti-trust.
Re: Amazon EC2 Mac Instances
#333I find it disgusting that Apple can force people to jump though these hoops while paying them a huge premium for sub-standard hardware[1] so that these people can develop for their platform. Not only are they bleeding the developers at build, test and sale time. They are providing a shitty experience while doing it. Of course from an economic point of view they are right! For businesses it still makes sense to do thi…
How are web apps crippled on iOS?
Re: Amazon EC2 Mac Instances
#334Earlier quoted context omitted.
Other than MacStadium already having that business model and their competitors that are hurt not having that model. They'd need to put in effort to transition at the very least.
“Needing to put in effort” is not a marker of anti-trust.
Small-m monopoly. Apple picked their business model and killed off the others; for now they’re the only game in town. I’m not claiming they’re going to use their position to control the market or anything.
Re: Amazon EC2 Mac Instances
#335"The instances are launched as EC2 Dedicated Hosts with a minimum tenancy of 24 hours" These are just rentable Mac Minis, not VMs. This will have only one use case and that's for build servers. Unless anyone has scalable AppleScript jobs to run?
What other thing is worth doing on MacOS at scale in an off premise cloud? I'm genuinely curious if there isn't something I'm missing out on. Build and test for Apple related stuff is the only thing that comes to mind.
Re: Amazon EC2 Mac Instances
#336GitHub has been doling out tiny macOS runners in virtual machines for a bit now [1] (seemingly in violation of macOS SLA), and these were hosted on MacStadium [2]! So for MacStadium to come out and pretend they were following the rules the entire time is disappointing. [1] http://web.archive.org/web/20200511183317if_/https://github.... [2] http://web.archive.org/web/20201108115438/https://docs.githu...
How is this at all MacStadium "pretending" to follow the rules? At worst, this is GitHub violating the rules. MacStadium is renting those macs to a single customer for longer than 24 hours. MacStadium is following the rules. MacStadium is just providing a platform. You're not really expecting MacStadium to snoop on each customer's usage and business model to enforce Apple's rules? AWS certainly won't be doing that. I…
> I don't understand why your comment is trying so hard to frame MacStadium as hypocrites.
MacStadium customer here. It's an arm's length setup. They don't ask what you're doing, just give you the keys to the machines. BUT, when MacStadium's (likely) biggest customer is running thousands of hosts for CI jobs, and even lists you as the vendor in their docs, it's perfectly obvious that multiple end user jobs are being run on that host per 24hr per.
It really boils down to who Apple is going to bother to audit / sue.
Re: Amazon EC2 Mac Instances
#337Earlier quoted context omitted.
Other than MacStadium already having that business model and their competitors that are hurt not having that model. They'd need to put in effort to transition at the very least.
That's nothing like a monopoly in anyway though. It's just a business that had the correct business model.
…that Apple randomly selected, so now they’re the only thing that handled this right now. It’s a monopoly in that they are the one that exists and other things cannot, legally, since they had a business model that they must now change.
Re: Amazon EC2 Mac Instances
#338I find it disgusting that Apple can force people to jump though these hoops while paying them a huge premium for sub-standard hardware[1] so that these people can develop for their platform. Not only are they bleeding the developers at build, test and sale time. They are providing a shitty experience while doing it. Of course from an economic point of view they are right! For businesses it still makes sense to do thi…
How are web apps crippled on iOS?
MobileSafari doesn't support a number of "PWA" features that Android Chrome does. Push notifications, for example, always require a mobile app on iOS (which I think is a good thing, personally, but I can understand other perspectives).
Re: Amazon EC2 Mac Instances
#339Earlier quoted context omitted.
Please tell me this is a typo, and you actually meant $1/day.
Afraid not, but you can get much better pricing at MacStadium.
Does that include their Mac Cloud offering with custom networking/subnets, or the per Mac Mini rentals? Generally the cloud services (similar to AWS) are pricier.
Re: Amazon EC2 Mac Instances
#340Earlier quoted context omitted.
> and shame on you Apple > (...) > either going to have to buy Macs Why not ditch the entire Apple ecosystem while you still can? Show them that we, developers, don't like feudal lords that like to tell us what we can and cannot do with our systems. So others won't dare to copy them.
Because there's money to be made by not "ditching the entire Apple ecosystem." If you were able to run a business that was fun, that made you money, and that enabled you to help other people have fun and make money (i.e., your employees), would you not do that out of principle? I'm genuinely asking.
> Because there's money to be made by not "ditching the entire Apple ecosystem."
That's very shortsighted. You can make money without Apple. And by doing so, you show that you value open, generic compute systems. Also, the prosperity of your business won't be at the whim of Apple.