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Trump administration announces overhaul of H1B visa program requiring higher pay

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Re: Trump administration announces overhaul of H1B visa program requiring higher pay

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I'm working on a dashboard to track H1B visa hiring and salary data at https://www.quiverquant.com/sources/visas Right now you can use it to see the biggest H1B employers and their median salaries for workers on visa. Open to any suggestions on how to make it more useful!

How is this dataset being updated considering considering the data from the iCERT system is not available real time anymore ? Are you relying on their annual disclosures ?

Re: Trump administration announces overhaul of H1B visa program requiring higher pay

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Overall, I really support these changes. However, this piece really struck me as a big mistake: "Under the changes, an applicant must have a college degree in the specific field in which he or she is looking to work. A software developer, for example, wouldn’t be awarded an H-1B visa if that person has a degree in electrical engineering." Some of the best software engineers I know are graduate degree holders from neu…

Couldn't employers just ultimately recategorize a job title to suit the degree?

As far as I know there is no actual audit of what the contents of the work are.

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“ Because those required wage increases take effect this week, existing H-1B holders looking to renew their visas might not qualify unless their employers raise their salaries accordingly.” This is really bad. Families are going to get told to leave. I’m surprised that there is no discussion on this thread about the impact to people who haven’t done anything wrong.

Since remote work has become acceptable and they already know the ins and outs of the job, many of these folks losing their visa will just be allowed to work remotely from India or Canada where it's trivial to get a work visa if you have a job offer. This means the US economy will lose all the taxes and local expenditure in the economy by the family like rent, food, travel, vacations, utilities, entertainment, cars,…

Is it that simple though? Maybe for companies that are incorporated abroad. Otherwise looks like international workers are subject to 30% withholding, unless there's some tax treaty https://www.irs.gov/businesses/international-businesses/us-w... .

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All: don't miss that there are multiple pages of comments in this thread. That's what the More link at the bottom points to. Or click here:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24702393&p=2

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24702393&p=3

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24702393&p=4

Re: Trump administration announces overhaul of H1B visa program requiring higher pay

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“ Because those required wage increases take effect this week, existing H-1B holders looking to renew their visas might not qualify unless their employers raise their salaries accordingly.” This is really bad. Families are going to get told to leave. I’m surprised that there is no discussion on this thread about the impact to people who haven’t done anything wrong.

> This is really bad. Families are going to get told to leave. I’m surprised that there is no discussion on this thread about the impact to people who haven’t done anything wrong. It's not a moral issue (except for the big H-1B mills that are gaming the system.) But nothing has changed: these are not an offer of citizenship. They are temporary work visas with no guarantees: an opportunity to do temporary specialty wo…

People oh H1B are either very friendly to constant moves or are banking on a path to citizenship through it. The latter category is the vast majority, let's be honest here.

Re: Trump administration announces overhaul of H1B visa program requiring higher pay

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This one is also a particularly terrible move: >“ Because those required wage increases take effect this week, existing H-1B holders looking to renew their visas might not qualify unless their employers raise their salaries accordingly.” Copying from my comment below, this is likely to backfire. Since remote work has become acceptable and they already know the ins and outs of the job, many of these folks losing their…

> Since remote work has become acceptable and they already know the ins and outs of the job, many of these folks losing their visa will just be allowed to work remotely from India. This means the US economy will lose all the taxes and local expenditure in the economy like rent, food, travel, vacations, utilities, cars, home sales, etc. etc. And if that works out, the next hire may just be directly hired in India itse…

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Credit where credit is due, this is a good move. The H1B program has been abused for a long time. It sounds like these changes should help make it too expensive for the fraudulent abuse to continue.

> The H1B program has been abused for a long time What's the abuse?

> What's the abuse?

That's probably about the handful of consulting companies doing shady stuff. Not the overall program as a whole.

Re: Trump administration announces overhaul of H1B visa program requiring higher pay

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Body shops" like Infosys and Tata Consulting that import thousands of H1Bs under borderline fraudulent applications, and then underpay these employees. Just a random link, but the contours of the problem: https://www.epi.org/blog/new-data-infosys-tata-abuse-h-1b-pr...

50k-60k is pretty normal in many places in US. Were they bringing staff in SF or NYC?

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Re: Trump administration announces overhaul of H1B visa program requiring higher pay

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

American visa programs are run for the benefit of americans. Whether or not the visa holder benefits is incidental and not the point of US law.

I don't approve of seamlessly replacing "people" with "Americans," and the idea that Americans should not care about whether people from elsewhere are harmed by American policies is vile.

Nothing vile about it, it is how all governments around the world operate, for the benefit of their citizens.

Does the Indian government care about americans? How about the Chinese?

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