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Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs

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Post by loopbit »

solarkraft wrote: post #153
akersten wrote: post #23

Neat, and works well for the toy example with 4 tabs open. I don't really think it would work as well for the "tab collectors" as they think. They seem to be aware of this too, since none of the screenshots in the post have anywhere near what I would consider a significant amount of tabs open. I use the tree style tab extension on Firefox[0], which I cannot live without. Horizontal tabs become useless after about 15…

There are lots of tree style tab fans in here, I am one of them. Hey, guys! I am curious how you organize other things. Do you think in trees in other places (like using Dynalist or Workflowy for notes)? I think many more concepts are fundamentally hierarchical and should be exposed to the user as such (trees everywhere!). What do you think?

Yep, my todo lists are all trees. Even when I'm writing a document, I first put the table of contents as a tree and then fill in the different sections :)

I have one exception, though. Mind-mapping.

I will use mind mapping tools for todos and notes. But for real mind mapping I use full blown graphs.

Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs

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Post by tsp »

The concept is totally flawed. Having 10+ tabs open is as chaotic as it was before. Too bad, Google missed a chance to solve a problem many people seem to have. At least here on Hackernews I am reading from time to time that people have the same problem I have – tab hoarding.

So far only one third party extension helped me with this – Workona [1]. It makes it possible to switch between tab groups. The downside is that the company behind it has a complete overview of browsing behaviour and at some point they want a monthly fee (6$ / month) for the unlimited account, which I am going to pay if no better solution comes around.

I also tried Firefox tree view, but it is missing the feature to switch tab groups.

[1] https://workona.com/

Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs

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Post by YennaV »

maciekmm wrote: post #90
akersten wrote: post #23

Neat, and works well for the toy example with 4 tabs open. I don't really think it would work as well for the "tab collectors" as they think. They seem to be aware of this too, since none of the screenshots in the post have anywhere near what I would consider a significant amount of tabs open. I use the tree style tab extension on Firefox[0], which I cannot live without. Horizontal tabs become useless after about 15…

Shameless plug. I made the ContainerTabsSidebar firefox addon[0], which is inspired by the TST. It groups tabs based on firefox privacy containers, which means every container has an isolated cookie store. I'm a tab hoarder and developed it to work for such "use-case". It's very similar to the groups presented, but displays tabs vertically. [0]: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/container-tab...

How does your extension interact with Temporary Containers (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/temporary-con...)?

I am a tab hoarder too and I use Temporary Containers to create ephemeral sessions.

Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs

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Post by macrael »

LOL "tab groups" AKA "windows". You can have this life today! When you have a tab that doesn't fit in with the others, pull it into its own window. When you're done asking google a question, close the window to close all the tabs associated with it. Use cmd-` to cycle through windows and expose to find a specific one!

I am happy to see them doing something new with tabs, I'm just sad that so many people seem to have stopped using the oldest GUI metaphor in the book in favor of monolithic browsers.

Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs

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Post by pkamb »

I hope this does not change the usability of large numbers of tabs in Chrome, which are still completely usable when they shrink down to Favicon size.

In contrast to Safari, which never shrinks tabs below ~1 inch and instead changes the tab bar to an awful horizontal scrolling/carousel view.

Safari tabs are completely unusable past around 15 tabs when it starts hiding and resizing the tabs on the edges. It's the main thing preventing me from switching from Chrome to Safari.

Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs

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Post by jyrkesh »

cybersol wrote: post #180

I have a dream. What I really want was likely not possible when tabs were invented, but should be now. I want least recently used tabs to automatically fade away, but still be fully known and searchable the way that 'search my computer' or 'google search' works. With search filters like last hour/day/week/month. And it seems like history should be kept per tab, not altogether. This way I keep a minimal-to-medium numb…

As others have said, OneTab is great, but also check out the Shift+T fuzzy tab search in Vimium: https://vimium.github.io/

Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs

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Post by maciekmm »

YennaV wrote: post #333
maciekmm wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Shameless plug. I made the ContainerTabsSidebar firefox addon[0], which is inspired by the TST. It groups tabs based on firefox privacy containers, which means every container has an isolated cookie store. I'm a tab hoarder and developed it to work for such "use-case". It's very similar to the groups presented, but displays tabs vertically. [0]: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/container-tab...

How does your extension interact with Temporary Containers ( https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/temporary-con... )? I am a tab hoarder too and I use Temporary Containers to create ephemeral sessions.

It's currently not the best experience as the temporary containers addon creates a container per browser tab which bloats the sidebar.

But there's a github issue for it and I've received a couple of requests regarding this today, so I will tackle this ASAP.

Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs

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Post by akincisor »

maciekmm wrote: post #90
akersten wrote: post #23

Neat, and works well for the toy example with 4 tabs open. I don't really think it would work as well for the "tab collectors" as they think. They seem to be aware of this too, since none of the screenshots in the post have anywhere near what I would consider a significant amount of tabs open. I use the tree style tab extension on Firefox[0], which I cannot live without. Horizontal tabs become useless after about 15…

Shameless plug. I made the ContainerTabsSidebar firefox addon[0], which is inspired by the TST. It groups tabs based on firefox privacy containers, which means every container has an isolated cookie store. I'm a tab hoarder and developed it to work for such "use-case". It's very similar to the groups presented, but displays tabs vertically. [0]: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/container-tab...

Is it possible to have the hierarchical structure of tabs like in tree style tabs (so I can see which tab spawned which tabs)?
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