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>average tech worker earns $275k a year I need to move to bay area this year. thats my sole mission this year.
I'm curious where this poster got that figure. I haven't found anything like it, in fact a pretty consistent 145k average salary. I would also be wary of average vs. median, as there's some real crazy outliers out there.
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#332Earlier quoted context omitted.
> We spend today 50-100 times more energy per person that people 100 years ago, and most of those people were happy. 100 years ago was 1920. That is two years after WWI. That is destroyed countries moving from crisis to crisis, veterans struggling to become part of society ...
I wonder how happy they were 90 years ago, and the relative amount of energy expenditure per person.
1930 - great depression - pretty bad. It also made all race problems worst quickly. 3 years before nazi gets power - Germany solidly on the path there. 6 years before stalin purge in Russia - solidly hellos country at that point.
So I guess it depends which part of world you talk about, tho none of it sounds perfect.
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#333> "When money is not at the forefront of your mind when you're doing your job, it allows you to be more passionate about what motivates you," she says. I spent the first several years of my career working in academia for a poverty level wage. I can confirm from my own experience that when you worry about not being able to pay rent and all the bills, it's very difficult to be productive, much less in a job that requir…
It's also due to high entry cost of city living.
water / food / electricity doesn't total high for my needs, rent on the other hand
I guess that's why artists lives in old buildings sometimes..
ps: also, call me crazy, but I think in a hunter settings you'd have more time to wander and create than todays city life. As long as there's enough rabbits around to grab ..
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What about Christians? They seem to like persecution porn.
Along with muslims, billionaires, homosexuals, communists, jews, vegans, nazis and libertarians. Pretty much the only people who are persecuted in the west are whistle blowers, zoophiles and pedophiles.
Umm, are you trying to get someone to break Godwin's law? Because I think that might mean that you're the one breaking it...
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Something to do with cloud computing, but not for any of the FANG + Microsoft companies.
Well FAANG seems to be missing an A, and a certain company does cloud computing starting with an A
Well the company she works for doesn't start with an A. But what is the A I'm missing? Oh, Apple. Nope, not Apple.
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#336We’re getting there in some places. Minimum salary in California is now $54k. By 2020 it will be $62k.
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I don't know why there is always this nitpick. I just take it for granted that when someone talks about tech "salaries" they mean "total comp". Virtually everyone in my peer group makes more than half of their total comp from non-salary compensation. Sure that portion varies somewhat due to market forces, but there seems little point in discussing base salaries.
There's a huge difference from getting stock grants from FAANGM and getting options from startups, which may easily turn into funny money. The recent underwhelming tech IPOs from Uber, and perhaps worrying upcoming IPOs from AirBnB, indicate that even options from unicorns might be of debatable worth. It's just not money in the bank in the same way those from the tech giants are.
Did you read the article you're responding to? It's historical data, which is as literal money in the bank as you can get. What's the point of saying "oh sure, but this is skewed by Amazon/Microsoft TC, base salaries are actually much lower" in this context?
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I have a sister-in-law that I recently learned is making $275k in a tech job in Seattle. She has no college degree or formal training. She has just learned things on the job over the years. I was frankly astonished. That is more than double what I make as a senior software engineer 3 hours away in Portland.
As a software dev just to the north in Vancouver, BC at 110k CAD: that's bananas money.
I am a software engineer in Vancouver as well, feels bad. My partner doesn't want to move so I am taking the pay cut. I have noticed that Vancouver dev salaries have been increasing the last few years, but no where close to +200K USD.
My end goal is to move to the Okanagan and get a remote job where I could get similar pay to Vancouver with much lower living costs.
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>average tech worker earns $275k a year I need to move to bay area this year. thats my sole mission this year.
I'm curious where this poster got that figure. I haven't found anything like it, in fact a pretty consistent 145k average salary. I would also be wary of average vs. median, as there's some real crazy outliers out there.
$145k for Bay Area salaries? I’m assuming this doesn’t include the wild bonuses and options I keep hearing about, because given how living expenses are, that seems like a negative ROI
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And I'm saying that if you have only, or mainly, worked at projects where all information (including about failed historical approaches and why they failed) is encoded in the source code, you have been very lucky to the point where I have a hard time imagining that to be true. There is so much implicit knowledge that goes into the finals source artifact that is not spelled out.
Sure Domain Knowledge is important. But again this can all be discovered as you go along. I had an interview at a this week for my next contract where they made redundant most of their employees as the business decided to just go with turnkey applications. They will get someone like me in for 3 to 6 months to do application maintenance on anything they can't replace. This will be stuff like implementing stuff from pe…
"But again this can all be discovered as you go along."
How are you going to discover that from just the sources without any institutional knowledge? It sounds to me this applies only to a specific niche you've managed to find. I.e. you get only those gigs where institutional knowledge is not paramount as the employers who need deep domain knowledge are not even trying to hire you. I don't mean this in a deragoratory sense - it sounds to me you provide great value to your employers - but just in that you work in a specific market segment and what is true in your segment might not hold in others.