This sounds like an empty New Years resolution, but perhaps they have a well thought out plan.
Google Brass Set 2023 as Deadline to Beat Amazon, Microsoft in Cloud
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#333Earlier quoted context omitted.
Stadia is a brute force attempt to grow GCP revenue
The Stadia pro tier fee is just $9.99/mo. The GPU and CPU you could consume playing a AAA game on that (yes, even on the purported "medium" settings) for just a few hours a day surely far exceeds what it could be sold for wholesale.
They don't have to match what it would be sold for wholesale though, just need to match the marginal cost. A graphics card that can run a AAA game is less than $500, so I don't think they are losing much on $9.99 a month. That's over $100 a year, and if each users plays 3 hours a day you can have 8 users using the same hardware at different times.
Now I don't think they are using consumer hardware, and there are other costs as well, but it seems realistic that they are making money off of it.
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#334Wow, this is a real indictment of goog’s plan to take the loot from ads and spend to diversify. They basically invented the cloud model, and if they don’t have the culture and the ability to expand to this most naturally of expansion areas.. they are doomed.
There is something seriously broken at google. This puts Larry quitting in more context. He’s lost confidence in google doing this, then there is nothing left for the org to do. Over—compensated, over-entitled, over-talented engineers that, when put together can’t actually accomplish anything.
Maybe gutting the product org all those years ago was a mistake.
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#335Earlier quoted context omitted.
Shoot....Forget about this one... But warranted, Google Fiber had never grown to Google Cloud's importance I would say
They literally had entire cities cheering for the arrival of their product, and they shuttered it.
At least the people who currently have it, will continue to have it (well, hopefully).
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#336GCP generates $8B annually. It's a bit dramatic to think Google will give up on GCP. AWS has a loyal customer base, which is well deserved, but Google does have some unique products (like Spanner) that AWS may never have. Point being there will always be a place in the market for GCP.
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#337Earlier quoted context omitted.
"That timeline was devised early last year, after an intense monthslong debate among senior leaders at Google and its parent company Alphabet over the future of the cloud business, a person with direct knowledge of the matter told The Information." Can't imagine a leak like that happening. This leak could very well have been planted by MS or Oracle to help them sell their own cloud to clients.
I think you underestimate how political Google has become internally.
I picture search engine team laughing secretly (or openly?) looking at this post? Is that an accurate imagination?
I don't work at google so I have no idea of knowing what it's like.
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#338They put the guy that ran ORACLE'S CLOUD STRATEGY in charge of GCP. ORACLE'S. CLOUD. STRATEGY. Let's hire Thomas Kurian, bang up job on Fusion and ... oh wait, what do you mean with 'total failure'? Oracle bought Sun, it had the keys to be the third force against AWS and MSFT - and they totally blew it. Just an amazing fumble, worse than MSFT and smartphones.
Didn't know this, pretty crazy hire... what's the reasoning behind that. Maybe they were desperate as the vmware founder wanted to retire and they needed to fill in the seat quickly?
I didn't know this either ...
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/12/google-cloud-ceo-thomas-kuri...
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#339> Microsoft or Amazon—currently first and second, respectively, in cloud market share
Isn’t this backwards? I thought aws was quite a bit bigger than azure.
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#340I don't understand how an enterprise as big as google doesn't have the energy to simply eat through time and money until it succeeds. Even if the share has to be divided forever between 3 major cloud providers, it would eventually pay off.
>> simply eat through time and money until it succeeds. That was Microsoft’s Bing versus Google strategy. Money can’t necessarily buy market dominance, even vast quantities of money.
Didn't Bing end up profitable?