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Google cancels TGIF weekly all-hands meetings

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Post by ubu7737 »

hn82738 wrote: post #327
redblacktree wrote: post #317

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> typical big corporation with typical corporate politics I don't know why this would surprise anyone. People are people and politics are politics in any large organization. There is no reason to think Google would be exempt.

> There is no reason to think Google would be exempt. Except that it did seem to be exempt, for much longer and while becoming much larger than I think most people would have imagined.

Google lost its varnish around the time it sought to fight Facebook with Plus. Around the time they released the Nexus 7.

I guess around the time Sundar became ascendant.

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Post by rexpop »

ChrisCinelli wrote: post #314
daenz wrote: post #31

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>not that I agree or disagree with his opinion You just outed yourself. I wish I was joking, but anything other than instant condemnation of what he wrote gets you labelled.

On his twitter account I found this: https://mobile.twitter.com/JamesADamore/status/1115631402119... > The two companies with the biggest internal social media platforms for their employees (Google and Facebook) also have massive employee turmoil… Anyone surprised?

Is it greater turmoil, or greater vocal agreement on perceived abuses?

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Post by lazyasciiart »

baggy_trough wrote: post #29
dionidium wrote: post #12

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> at these previously pro-politics (some kinds of politics) workplaces There are no people who actually think it’s ok to bring politics into the workplace. There are only people who don’t think their politics are politics; it’s everybody else’s politics that’s politics.

Totally wrong. Haven't you heard people claim "everything is political"?

Have you ever heard someone say that AND say you should keep politics out of the workplace?

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Post by rainyMammoth »

viburnum wrote: post #319
acruns wrote: post #18

I turned down an offer from Google (cloud) because I didn't want to work for a company that was so focused on politics internally. This was just after they fired Damore, not that I agree or disagree with his opinion, but because Google seems promote internal fighting. That type of culture doesn't appeal to me.

The dude said whole classes of people were genetically inferior. That makes employee evaluations impossible. He had to go.

This is not what he said at all. He said that the interests of men are different than the interests of women. You are blindly repeating what blogs and other activists reported he said. Go read his memo.

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Post by ttraub »

fooker wrote: post #202

RIP I'm one of those people who go work at Google once every few years. The transformation of culture from about 2013 onwards has been somewhat sad to experience. Interestingly, most people who have been continuously employed there have not felt the very slight gradient. However, the changes in culture, freedom, food quality, etc are fairly obvious when one returns after ..say.. 18 months. Here are some semi-concrete…

I'd be interested to hear what Googlers have to say about recent deals with the Chinese government. Any qualms about that, or is there more of a feeling of relief or "glad we're back in China"?

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Post by rexpop »

refurb wrote: post #196
nlfwhulsdhouv wrote: post #175

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The left was pretty damn upset about the blackface scandal. The Liberals are a _centrist_ party, not a leftist one. That's the NDP.

The left wasn’t upset enough not to vote for him!

Do you honestly believe this is an unmitigated acceptance of his entire person? Haven't you ever heard of "the lesser of two evils?" Of compromising?

Are you actually taking his election as evidence that "the left is racist"? I pity those who depend on you for inference.

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Post by kartayyar »

As a Xoogler who just wanted to get on topic product updates ( and Sergey jokes I guess - he really is insanely funny), I actually found it frustrating that it was an overloaded forum for any and all random topics.

Were I working there, this would have made sense to me.

I didn't work there to be an activist. I worked there to go work on products.

I don't get other comments that say "courted activists". The recruiting pitch is about impact, a good work environment, compensation and interesting products.

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Post by kart23 »

zozbot234 wrote: post #6
scohesc wrote: post #4

It's almost like the employees are slowly seeing Sundar as somebody they can't relate with under the company's now "controversial" common goals and objectives. Now Google management is panicking and doing everything they can to reduce employee's face time with the higher-ups since management knows the company is moving in a direction that a large number of employees disagree with!

> It's almost like the employees are slowly seeing Sundar as somebody they can't relate with I might agree but I'm not sure that this is news . Ever since Sundar became CEO there, there's been a somewhat widespread perception that he would focus on beancounting and running Google as a "mature" firm, with little or no innovation to speak of. (For that matter, you could even view this as a very reasonable response to i…

Well, i think it makes sense for google to be run like a mature company now. Their core products are pretty well developed, but they still have sections that are more focused on innovating and researching stuff that can possibly be part of Google's core business in the future.

Dont fix what ain't broke.

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Post by whatshisface »

ekianjo wrote: post #322
redblacktree wrote: post #317

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> typical big corporation with typical corporate politics I don't know why this would surprise anyone. People are people and politics are politics in any large organization. There is no reason to think Google would be exempt.

> There is no reason to think Google would be exempt. It can be controlled in some way. If you only hire people from the same political pool, for example. Or getting them early enough (young enough) to shape them in a way that will lower internal tensions. Not every large company is burning in political fires.

Another option is to have a culture of not permitting political fires to be lit on company property. In other words, not talking about politics at work.

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Post by erikpukinskis »

malvosenior wrote: post #5

I wonder if companies like Google and GitHub that actively courted activists are now regretting their decision. For a long time it was common knowledge that you would try to keep stuff like that out of the workplace. The past 10 years have been an about face to that strategy and now we're seeing more or less complete chaos internally at these previously pro-politics (some kinds of politics) workplaces. My guess is th…

“Complete chaos”? For real?
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