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Post by jmull »

jeswin wrote: post #272

> Inverted-T arrow keys! A millimeter of key travel! Which is still quite poor - Thinkpads offer between 1.3 to 1.9mm of travel depending on the model. It is surprising that a $1Trillion computer hardware company cannot design the best keyboard in the world while tiny Lenovo seems to have done much better. Why would a "pro" user care more thinness and form than the usability of the primary input mechanism? Add: It's…

Well, from someone who's had to rely on his work-issued Thinkpad a lot over the last week... Thinkpad keyboard are complete crap. Those keys can travel all the way into a garbage can for all I care.

I have no idea if this new laptop's keyboard is any good, but it would have to take several steps back before you get to lenovo. One arrow key pops on and off as I use it. (This lappy is 4 months old and I've rarely done anything but remote into it so the keyboard should be pristine.) The escape key needs to be pressed extra hard -- beyond the "click" -- to register sometimes. Also, the right-click area on the trackpad expands and contracts mysteriously (best just to turn that off.)

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pcr910303 wrote: post #218
ses1984 wrote: post #80

"I'm so glad this model has a touchbar" "I would buy a dell xps but only if it had a touchbar" things no one ever said.

> "I'm so glad this model has a touchbar" I'm so glad this model has a Touch Bar. I have seen numerous people who have a MBP 2016 or later which just can't use computers without the Touch Bar experience. If somebody doesn't find it useful, that's OK, but please, there are a lot of people (who doesn't loudly complain at HN) that finds the Touch Bar useful & incorporates it in one's workflow. I for myself uses my Touch…

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Post by holtalanm »

rco8786 wrote: post #146
Ambroos wrote: post #77

For others who might be wondering, this replaces the 15-inch MacBook Pro. There's a small increase in size (15 vs 16): - Thickness: 1.55cm to 1.62cm (+0.7mm, +4.5%) - Width: 34.93cm to 35.79cm (+0.86cm, +2.5%) - Depth: 24.07cm to 24.59cm (+0.52cm, +2.2%) - Weight: 1.83kg to 2.0kg (+170gr, +9.3%) The display alone is ~1.3cm wider (and ~0.7cm higher), so there was a small reduction in bezel sizes, allowing the screen t…

Dang. My 15” is already a hit too big for airplane work and this won’t help. 13 is too small as a daily driver. Can a guy get a 14”??

my thoughts exactly. seems theyre going the wrong way size-wise. rather have 14". drop the 15 AND the 13, imo. reduce skus, improve profit.

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Post by spurgu »

twic wrote: post #119
crusso wrote: post #89

I have a TouchBar MacBook and I was pretty peeved about the escape key at first, but once I remapped the caps lock key to escape I never looked back. The caps lock key is worthless anyway. That said, the only cool use for the TouchBar that I've noted is with iTerm2. Changing terminal colors on the fly from the TouchBar is actually kinda nifty.

BUT DOESN'T THAT MAKE POSTING ON FORUMS HARD?!!

FOR THAT YOU JUST TYPE WHILE YOUR LEFT HAND PINKY IS RESTING ON SHIFT!

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Post by rc_kas »

gardnr wrote: post #325

The photos in the article do show the physical escape key but do not show the sides of the laptop where the ports would be. I hope that it has a MagSafe charge adapter and an HDMI port.

> MagSafe charge adapter

we all want that, but apparently its not coming back

Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by usaphp »

Those full sized arrows on current 15” MacBooks were driving me crazy! It’s great to see them put half sized left and right arrows back! I’ll Definitely b buying it

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Post by hombre_fatal »

jeswin wrote: post #272

> Inverted-T arrow keys! A millimeter of key travel! Which is still quite poor - Thinkpads offer between 1.3 to 1.9mm of travel depending on the model. It is surprising that a $1Trillion computer hardware company cannot design the best keyboard in the world while tiny Lenovo seems to have done much better. Why would a "pro" user care more thinness and form than the usability of the primary input mechanism? Add: It's…

I like the macbook pro's keyboard out of the box. The low-travel clicking feels ideal to me, for maybe that first week.

Of course, my issue is that they have some sort of internal catastrophic process failure if they were able to release a keyboard that fails so consistently. It wasn't just bad design, it was a process that seemingly did zero testing behind some Apple employees typing "hello world" on a ground floor clean room and going "yep, seems good."

I look forward to see how the 16" MBP shakes out. I can believe that they redesigned the keys, but not that they fixed a gaping hole in their fundamental processes responsible for a dud keyboard that they had no idea how to fix.

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Post by make3 »

gardnr wrote: post #325

The photos in the article do show the physical escape key but do not show the sides of the laptop where the ports would be. I hope that it has a MagSafe charge adapter and an HDMI port.

no, just usb-c

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Post by satysin »

91edec wrote: post #307
rmsaksida wrote: post #24

Great, now I hope they make a 13-inch version. There's no reason to sacrifice mobility in a pro laptop.

They will probably do the same stuff to the 13inch model turning it into a 14inch.

This is what I am hoping. As a MBP 15" user I don't want something any bigger (even just a few mm bigger). I want something in the current 13" models size just with more screen/less bezel.

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Post by dan-robertson »

insta_anon wrote: post #242

Can someone explain to me how Apple can justify only including a 720p FaceTime HD camera into the "the world’s best pro notebook"? The last iPhone that had this FaceTime camera was the 6S, released in 2015. Since the iPhone 7 (2016) the phones have had at least a 1080p FaceTime camera. Given that FaceTime / Skype calls are such a common use case and rarely anyones uses external webcams anymore, why doesn't Apple use…

I don’t think Apple improved the front facing cameras on phones because of face time. I think it was because selfies became popular.

Perhaps better cameras would be thicker than screen currently has room for? I don’t really know how thick they would be.

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