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Re: YouTube bans content “showing users how to bypass secure computer systems”

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Post by JudgeWapner »

floatingatoll wrote: post #147

One effective way to protest this would be to report videos by high-profile companies such as Microsoft, Amazon, and Google itself. Take a few minutes to look for a video about Azure or AWS or GCP, or a video of a presentation at a conference around such things, and report it as Inappropriate content citing the relevant terms of service. Be very careful only to report content that conforms to the above description —…

can you clarify which options to click on? I dont see a label that best fits this complaint. there are options like terrorism/child abuse/offensive content, etc.

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gambiting wrote: post #228
floatingatoll wrote: post #147

One effective way to protest this would be to report videos by high-profile companies such as Microsoft, Amazon, and Google itself. Take a few minutes to look for a video about Azure or AWS or GCP, or a video of a presentation at a conference around such things, and report it as Inappropriate content citing the relevant terms of service. Be very careful only to report content that conforms to the above description —…

That's probably a great way to get your own Google account banned, and there is no way in hell I'm risking that.

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Post by memmcgee »

jlmorton wrote: post #70

There's a lot of bad content on the Internet, and a lot of people wanted to ban it. And the free speech absolutists said, that's a slippery slope. Once you start restricting speech beyond whatever is illegal, there will be no end to the demands to ban certain content. And a lot of us said, slippery slopes are silly arguments. All we're asking is to ban overt racism and calls to violence. We can evaluate these things…

Except YouTube hasn't even banned overt racism and calls to violence. You can still find plenty of it on the platform. Once a channel is large enough, there's effectively nothing you can do short of copyright infringement to get banned.

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Post by ac29 »

Liquix wrote: post #117

Emperor G built a beautiful walled city, inviting everyone in, encouraging them to paint their houses whatever color they like. A year later, Big G banned blue houses. If you didn't like the rules, you were more than welcome to build your house outside the city and paint it whatever color you like. Only most people don't leave - blue is just one color and they weren't very interested in it anyway. Besides, the city i…

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Post by castis »

gambiting wrote: post #228
floatingatoll wrote: post #147

One effective way to protest this would be to report videos by high-profile companies such as Microsoft, Amazon, and Google itself. Take a few minutes to look for a video about Azure or AWS or GCP, or a video of a presentation at a conference around such things, and report it as Inappropriate content citing the relevant terms of service. Be very careful only to report content that conforms to the above description —…

That's probably a great way to get your own Google account banned, and there is no way in hell I'm risking that.

This is a good example of what people do in real life when confronted with change they want vs repercussions.

Compounded by the fact that it was posted by username 'gambiting'.

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Post by dboreham »

WalterBright wrote: post #111

I bought a book on defeating burglar alarms because I wanted to install a burglar alarm that wasn't easily defeated. I read up on what causes cancer so I can avoid those things. I read up on security breaches because I'm interested in designing the D programming language so D programs are less susceptible to hacking attacks.

I watched videos on how to open padlocks because I bought a house with a padlocked gate to which the owner had lost the key.

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Post by darkpuma »

ac29 wrote: post #334
Liquix wrote: post #117

Emperor G built a beautiful walled city, inviting everyone in, encouraging them to paint their houses whatever color they like. A year later, Big G banned blue houses. If you didn't like the rules, you were more than welcome to build your house outside the city and paint it whatever color you like. Only most people don't leave - blue is just one color and they weren't very interested in it anyway. Besides, the city i…

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It's only a fallacy if there is no demonstrable slope.

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Post by SamReidHughes »

Aelius wrote: post #294
whatshisface wrote: post #222

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And there is no "who draws the line‽" argument here That's exactly the argument, not everybody thinks Alex Jones went too far. In fact, I bet a lot of people who listen to Alex Jones would find something you supported to be miles beyond what is ever OK. That's part and parcel of living in a diverse, cosmopolitan society. Sometimes, other people's opinions are miles beyond OK, but that's still okay. ;)

You seem to be willfully ignoring the demonstrable harm he causes. You're promoting a false balance. You're saying "Alex Jones robbed a bank, other people eat their coworkers' lunch, so who are we to judge?" Absolute nonsense.

If demonstrable harm is your standard, please just announce you don't believe in free speech and move along. Everybody advocating for the wrong stance on politics creates demonstrable harm.

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Post by jrockway »

chrshawkes wrote: post #115
jrockway wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think anyone is stopping you from putting your hacking video on your own website and letting users download it. That would be censorship. This is merely an aggregator/community that doesn't want to pay to distribute your content. So pay someone else!

Hacking is a very broad term with positive meanings in most cases, at least spoken from one programmer to another. It seems too broad to say, hacking videos are not allowed. Hacking together a Node SPA? Is that hacking? No, but it will result in the video immediately being flagged as not eligible for monetization etc. Google's morals and ethics should not be pushed on the entire world's only video platform (realistic…

I am not sure why we're having a debate about what "hacking" is when the original article is entitled 'YouTube bans content “showing users how to bypass secure computer systems”'. Making a Node SPA is not bypassing secure computer systems. You are getting mad at Google for something they have neither said nor done.

The point of my original post was to say, no matter what YouTube's guidelines are, they're not censorship any more than NBC not wanting to broadcast some random TV show you just produced. There are other means to get your message out there. Not having access to easy ones doesn't mean you're being oppressed. It just means you have to work harder.

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Post by anbop »

ac29 wrote: post #334
Liquix wrote: post #117

Emperor G built a beautiful walled city, inviting everyone in, encouraging them to paint their houses whatever color they like. A year later, Big G banned blue houses. If you didn't like the rules, you were more than welcome to build your house outside the city and paint it whatever color you like. Only most people don't leave - blue is just one color and they weren't very interested in it anyway. Besides, the city i…

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Except that slopes are actually slippery sometimes. Look at the recent, and quite rapid, normalization of physical violence in American political argumentation.
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