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Re: The internet is an SEO landfill

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Post by mrhappyunhappy »

lostctown wrote: post #121

I append "reddit" to any query not meant for a productive task. Except now the internet is mostly reddit for me, which kinda bums me out. Especially given the new js-heavy design. In 2019, if I want reliable search about something I know nothing about I must first search on google, then try again with "reddit" appended, then change www.reddit.com to old.reddit.com, then parse through what are often questionable answe…

Are you me? This is me exactly. Google has become almost useless and I now have to append certain domains to find anything valuable.

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Post by colechristensen »

pdimitar wrote: post #324
nickfromseattle wrote: post #311

This is 100% how search engine optimization works, the consultants are correct. As a marketer, when I search for marketing information on Google 70%-90% of the time all of the stuff on the 1st page generally isn't teaching me anything I didn't already know. But as someone who does this exact thing, I know how expensive good content is - hiring an author to write 3,000 words of valuable information for a reader can co…

What I don't like about your line of thinking is that creating such content should even cost money. Knowledge should be free at our point in time and supposed evolutional stage. But it's not. I'd gladly donate some local lectures on the stuff I know if I had the time. But I wouldn't charge money for it. Knowledge should be free. And internet should have become mega yellow pages on steroids like a decade ago.

If you think knowledge should be free, contribute to freely available knowledge in some useful way you can.

Re: The internet is an SEO landfill

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Post by pdimitar »

colechristensen wrote: post #332
pdimitar wrote: post #324

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What I don't like about your line of thinking is that creating such content should even cost money. Knowledge should be free at our point in time and supposed evolutional stage. But it's not. I'd gladly donate some local lectures on the stuff I know if I had the time. But I wouldn't charge money for it. Knowledge should be free. And internet should have become mega yellow pages on steroids like a decade ago.

If you think knowledge should be free, contribute to freely available knowledge in some useful way you can.

I do. My main barrier to being more useful and community active is my limited time. As I said above, I wouldn't charge a penny if I had the time to share more knowledge.

Re: The internet is an SEO landfill

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Post by evilduck »

jrumbut wrote: post #288
dheera wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The best cooking tutorials are barely translated Youtube videos. Yeah I love those. The "random grandma with a gopro" tutorials always work, modulo language barrier. The video editing is crap and you sometimes have to keep fast forwarding while stuff is cooking but the recipes are good.

Could you give us a link to a great random grandma with a gopro video? I have been to what I thought was deep in the Internet recipe mines and never saw this.

Probably not a GoPro but Chinese food channels seem to fit this description fairly often. Here’s one https://youtu.be/fz_aSsuhg8Y

Re: The internet is an SEO landfill

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Post by siphon22 »

pdimitar wrote: post #324
nickfromseattle wrote: post #311

This is 100% how search engine optimization works, the consultants are correct. As a marketer, when I search for marketing information on Google 70%-90% of the time all of the stuff on the 1st page generally isn't teaching me anything I didn't already know. But as someone who does this exact thing, I know how expensive good content is - hiring an author to write 3,000 words of valuable information for a reader can co…

What I don't like about your line of thinking is that creating such content should even cost money. Knowledge should be free at our point in time and supposed evolutional stage. But it's not. I'd gladly donate some local lectures on the stuff I know if I had the time. But I wouldn't charge money for it. Knowledge should be free. And internet should have become mega yellow pages on steroids like a decade ago.

>I'd gladly donate some local lectures on the stuff I know if I had the time.

It sounds like your time is a limited resource and you choose to allocate it to other areas of your life instead of for the good of spreading knowledge. Why then, do you think others should give their time away for free?

Not trying to be hostile, just a thought for you.

Re: The internet is an SEO landfill

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Post by pdimitar »

siphon22 wrote: post #336
pdimitar wrote: post #324

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What I don't like about your line of thinking is that creating such content should even cost money. Knowledge should be free at our point in time and supposed evolutional stage. But it's not. I'd gladly donate some local lectures on the stuff I know if I had the time. But I wouldn't charge money for it. Knowledge should be free. And internet should have become mega yellow pages on steroids like a decade ago.

>I'd gladly donate some local lectures on the stuff I know if I had the time. It sounds like your time is a limited resource and you choose to allocate it to other areas of your life instead of for the good of spreading knowledge. Why then, do you think others should give their time away for free? Not trying to be hostile, just a thought for you.

No offense taken, yours is a valid criticism -- until you meet 20+ internet marketers in real life.

There are a lot of very greedy people with a lot of time on their hands but they choose to try and strangle the internet instead of bettering it. And I am left saddened that I have a family to support, health to improve, and work on having my own retirement fund. Maybe start a business or two as well.

Trust me I get it. But currently I have to think of the future and there are only 14-15 active hours a day.

Yours remains a valid remark. If we want to have useful internet then maybe a lot of personal lives have to be sacrificed.

Re: The internet is an SEO landfill

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Post by siphon22 »

pdimitar wrote: post #337
siphon22 wrote: post #336

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I'd gladly donate some local lectures on the stuff I know if I had the time. It sounds like your time is a limited resource and you choose to allocate it to other areas of your life instead of for the good of spreading knowledge. Why then, do you think others should give their time away for free? Not trying to be hostile, just a thought for you.

No offense taken, yours is a valid criticism -- until you meet 20+ internet marketers in real life. There are a lot of very greedy people with a lot of time on their hands but they choose to try and strangle the internet instead of bettering it. And I am left saddened that I have a family to support, health to improve, and work on having my own retirement fund. Maybe start a business or two as well. Trust me I get it…

I get where you're coming from. But I'm going to offer another perspective. There is a shitload of content being made on the internet, and I believe you too would agree the vast majority of content on the web could be hardly called "knowledge" and are more likely to have a negative effect than good on society. And it's literally all free, they don't get paid for that, it's just what people naturally do, and technological advancements have made it really easy to do.

In such a landscape, how do we incentivize the proliferation of actually useful content and knowledge? It's not so easy as to just putting words out there most of the time is it? The content we consider valuable have significant amounts of time, research, and thought behind them I would assume. Time is a limited resource, and it is often that the people who have the most valuable knowledge to offer have less of it while those who post meaningless crap have the most.

Re: The internet is an SEO landfill

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Post by CondensedBrain »

com2kid wrote: post #86
dheera wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One thing about cookbooks is that the massive barrier to actually publishing and distributing is a natural filter for credibility; most cookbooks have tried-and-true recipes and are either authentic or a genuinely good adaptation by a skilled chef author. The internet is full of garbage recipes that either just don't work, inauthentic, and uncreative, all at the same time. As far as murdering trees go -- let's not fo…

The flip side of this is that the cookbooks rarely have super niche recipes. Even some of the highest rated "authentic" cookbooks have the flavor level tuned way down to be more "suitable for American tastes". The best cooking tutorials are barely translated Youtube videos. Or even better, recipes going through Google Translate. (Or get a multi-lingual friend... :) ) Cook's Illustrated also does some 100% legit inter…

>> "I've also enjoyed the organic explosion of low carb cooking that has happened online. I have been witness to the community growing from its very beginnings less than a decade ago when it was just some people trying to make weight loss taste good"

This is way older than a decade. I knew people getting into it and sharing recipes on Usenet. The current boom is new, but online low carb communities are ancient in internet terms.

It wasn't very palatable back then, but people sure did try.

Re: The internet is an SEO landfill

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Post by shthed »

blunte wrote: post #236

Indeed most of the content on the web is SEO fluff or veiled attempts to push an affiliate link. Worse, almost every site has a cookie “preference” popup (when everyone knows the preference is just the minimum necessary cookies), a newsletter signup popup, and a browser notification request popup. Add to that the autoplaying videos that will pop out into their own overlay if you scroll away plus the rotating ads of d…

Is there an adblock which removes these sites from search results?
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