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Re: Beyond Meat S-1

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Post by cageface »

sridca wrote: post #329
cageface wrote: post #325

Earlier quoted context omitted.

HN is a fairly intelligent and educated crowd by internet standards. Perhaps it should give you pause that so many such people not only consider veganism not alarming but actually positive. And dismissing it as mindless doesn't really signal debating in good faith on your part or his.

> HN is a fairly intelligent and educated crowd by internet standards. Yet intelligent and educated people do hold beliefs not based on facts, and are unwilling to be questioned. > Perhaps it should give you pause that so many such people not only consider veganism not alarming but actually positive. It gives me no pause whatsoever as I'm not someone that so easily follows the crowd. I simply take it to be the case t…

I simply take it to be the case that veganism is the flat-earth-theory of 2019.

And you wonder why nobody takes your comments seriously. The American Dietetics Association, the largest association of professional dieticians in the world, says vegan diets are healthy and appropriate for all ages:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27886704

Science is on our side. Who's the flat earther here?

Re: Beyond Meat S-1

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Post by megablast »

bluntfang wrote: post #48
Pfhreak wrote: post #3

I've gone vegetarian, except for a single grass fed animal I bought from a local farmer. (I live in a city, it was easier than I thought it would be to connect with a farmer out in the rural part of my state.) The transition was way, way easier than I thought it was going to be. I didn't guilt myself when I made mistakes, just stopped eating meat unless I was sure the provenance of it was sustainable and free from cr…

>free from cruelty. Do you mind if I ask what your requirements for this are? At the end of the day, isn't ending life cruel, no matter the means?

Do you drive? If so you are partly responsible for over 2 million world wide deaths a year. Many times that in number of animals cruely killed.

Re: Beyond Meat S-1

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Post by megablast »

wickoff wrote: post #175
bluntfang wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>free from cruelty. Do you mind if I ask what your requirements for this are? At the end of the day, isn't ending life cruel, no matter the means?

It's not like the animal is going to live forever if you don't kill it. In nature animals are often eaten alive by predators, die from disease, starvation and get horribly injured in competition for mates. A free range animal that's being humanely put down by a farmer has a much more pleasant life. If you go down this rabbit hole deep enough you can begin to question whether life itself should exist.

I guess you are ok with being farmed in a similar way? Of course not.

Re: Beyond Meat S-1

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Post by uptown »

JohnFen wrote: post #296
Pfhreak wrote: post #3

I've gone vegetarian, except for a single grass fed animal I bought from a local farmer. (I live in a city, it was easier than I thought it would be to connect with a farmer out in the rural part of my state.) The transition was way, way easier than I thought it was going to be. I didn't guilt myself when I made mistakes, just stopped eating meat unless I was sure the provenance of it was sustainable and free from cr…

> (I live in a city, it was easier than I thought it would be to connect with a farmer out in the rural part of my state.) I wish that more people would realize how easy this is! Plus, the quality of the meat you'll get (even if you aren't overtly buying the best possible) simply blows anything you find in the supermarket away. Here's what I've been doing with 4 friends for years now: every year, we go in on buying a…

What's the approximate cost for a full butchered cow?

Re: Beyond Meat S-1

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Post by toight »

cageface wrote: post #331
sridca wrote: post #329

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> HN is a fairly intelligent and educated crowd by internet standards. Yet intelligent and educated people do hold beliefs not based on facts, and are unwilling to be questioned. > Perhaps it should give you pause that so many such people not only consider veganism not alarming but actually positive. It gives me no pause whatsoever as I'm not someone that so easily follows the crowd. I simply take it to be the case t…

I simply take it to be the case that veganism is the flat-earth-theory of 2019. And you wonder why nobody takes your comments seriously. The American Dietetics Association, the largest association of professional dieticians in the world, says vegan diets are healthy and appropriate for all ages: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27886704 Science is on our side. Who's the flat earther here?

Science doesn't have the multivariate statistical capability to settle the argument yet. Like I said The literature's converging and if dietitians had anything of value to add why are chronic health conditions escalating. I'm betting on the macro ratios of the pre colonial Polynesian diet, Works pretty well for me. And I can do 40 pressups without any training other than the odd walk and grass fed roast lamb is absolutely delicious and it's biochemistry evolved in synch with mine.But by all means eat the pea goo, it reduces the demand for lamb. Everyone gets freedom of choice to eat what they choose in developed countries, It's a valuable freedom.

Re: Beyond Meat S-1

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Post by [deleted] »

dfischer wrote: post #302
JohnFen wrote: post #296

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> (I live in a city, it was easier than I thought it would be to connect with a farmer out in the rural part of my state.) I wish that more people would realize how easy this is! Plus, the quality of the meat you'll get (even if you aren't overtly buying the best possible) simply blows anything you find in the supermarket away. Here's what I've been doing with 4 friends for years now: every year, we go in on buying a…

I've been using www.crowdcow.com and have been very happy with the quality and cost. It lasts a while.

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Re: Beyond Meat S-1

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Post by bigwheeler »

city41 wrote: post #100
PerfectElement wrote: post #27

I've been vegan for 15 years, and I've tried all sorts of veggie burgers and mock meats available. Some of them are good, but pretty easy to tell they are not meat. When I first had the Beyond Burger last year (just plain with 2 thin slices of bread) it brought back a very strong memory of how meat used to taste. I wonder if most meat eaters would be able to tell it's not meat on a blind test. I'm curious to try the…

I am not vegetarian, but I like Beyond Meat and eat it pretty often, especially their sausage. But in my opinion it doesn't really taste or feel like meat at all. I'm OK with that, but if they really want to "fool" meat eaters, I think they have a ways to go.

The spicy Italian sausage is amazing

Re: Beyond Meat S-1

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Post by nostalgiac »

basetop wrote: post #304
sammycdubs wrote: post #158

I've seen this said before (I forget from who), but I honestly think that over the next few decades meat is going to go through a similar transition to tobacco. I don't think it's ever going to disappear completely, but I think it's going to become something most people only enjoy once in a while if at all. I also think that meat consumption is going to be viewed in a significantly more negative light over time.

Meat consumption is expected to increase as less developed nations like china, india, ASEAN countries, africa get wealthier. https://ourworldindata.org/meat-and-seafood-production-consu... People forget that for much of the 3rd world, meat was an unaffordable luxury. It won't be for much longer as they develop. Also, meat is a natural part of a healthy human diet. It's unrealistic to think that meat consumption is go…

> Also, meat is a natural part of a healthy human diet. It's unrealistic to think that meat consumption is going to be viewed as tobacco.

I disagree.

https://www.who.int/features/qa/cancer-red-meat/en/

Re: Beyond Meat S-1

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Post by hedora »

uptown wrote: post #335
JohnFen wrote: post #296

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> (I live in a city, it was easier than I thought it would be to connect with a farmer out in the rural part of my state.) I wish that more people would realize how easy this is! Plus, the quality of the meat you'll get (even if you aren't overtly buying the best possible) simply blows anything you find in the supermarket away. Here's what I've been doing with 4 friends for years now: every year, we go in on buying a…

What's the approximate cost for a full butchered cow?

We sold a live cow for a bit under $600 at wholesale auction late last year (It probably went to a feed lot).

I’d love to know what direct to butcher retail prices are.

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