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Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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There is something about Notion that makes it feel very well-made and coherent. It’s one of the few apps I use with this inherent feeling of quality (off the top of my head Sublime Text/Merge, Beyond Compare, Things fall into this category of intangible greatness). Every interaction is delightful, and the app scales really well from basic note-taking to decently complex databases with grouping, filters, relations, te…

Notion's founder here. Thank you for the kind words - we are honored :-) To be honest, nothing we are doing is that new. Most of the ideas came from the 70s-80s (Alan Kay, Doug Engelbart, Ted Nelson...) We are just applying a fresh coat of paint. Of course, there's still a lot more to be done to fully realize these pioneers' dreams of computing as a medium for everyone – not just programmers like us. If you are inter…

Hi. Can you share how you think Notion is better than say Quip? I use Quip extensively but am open to trying something new.

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

#332

Some good alternatives - Quip ( https://quip.com ) - Airtable ( https://airtable.com ) - Taskade ( https://taskade.com )

- Coda ( https://coda.io/ )

Notion is now becoming a lot more like coda. I love how Coda exposes tabular data in a programmable way (but programmable as in easier than spreadsheets). It also even has API access: https://coda.io/developers/apis/v1beta1

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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One more todo and notes app. Why does the world need so many such apps? I always find myself changing from one such app to another, porting all the existing notes. Currently I'm using onenote and am very content with it. But there's always this feeling that something's not quite right. I tried evernote, onenote, and several other notes apps. I don't understand why I try so many note taking apps. I think others too fe…

I had the same feeling for as long as I can remember: just when I thought I was content with some apps, I find a new one on Product Hunt or Hacker News that promise something that I don’t know I want but after some thought think I need esp. for note taking/organization/productivity combo apps.

Still coping with it with a better clue as to how to deal with it.

The antidote for me is to figure out this (with the help of pen and paper): a list of what are the absolute basic needs I want out of productivity apps. For example, I tried to find the best tools for my personal knowledge management. My criteria (or deal breaker): cross device (iOS and MacOS); easy to export and share in common formats to others; no need for collaboration features; I can throw in any file without worrying that I need to import or convert format. Upon examining the list, I figured out that I want a tool that’s more like a file management system with full text search ability.

A bigger and prior than “basic needs for productivity tools” question that took me some time to figure out last year between October and November is what my workflows are, what kind of communication I need between different apps. For example, I need a central tool to search all my files (preferably full text) in a project, yet I need editing features in specific apps (Photoshop, Mindnode, Numbers).

Last point is to be content. I was on a constant quest for finding the holy grail of all-in-one app to no avail (I experimented with Notion on and off for almost a year but ultimately decided that it’s not for me). And when I look back, my real need disguised as “finding the perfect tool” is actually to master the knowledge that I picked up from life and work, and the best way is really just to routinely index, review and edit my knowledge scattered around in the files (adding and deleting) and write reviews of what I learned whenever possible.

P.S. I grow more skeptical of tools that need internet connection to function (i.e., beyond syncing) because: can’t cope with my need to take down notes fast (therefore I went with Drafts for times like this); files cannot be loaded in places where internet connections are not great (surprisingly a lot of places when you’re on the road a lot); you can’t control which features they add or take down (for their own reasons).

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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> "Session": true, As in: this cookie will stick around as long as your browser is running, but when you close it and start it up again it will be gone?

If it’s like Matomo’s opt-out system, that cookie is required – it’s the very thing that turns on the opt-out.

When you opt-out of Matomo, the message warns that “if you clear your cookies, delete the opt-out cookie, or if you change computers or Web browsers, you will need to perform the opt-out procedure again”.

Matomo also honours the browser’s DNT setting, which is a) nice and b) rare.

https://matomo.org/docs/privacy/#step-4-respect-donottrack-p...

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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They use Electron, but don't have a build for Linux. Why.

You can access it via web with any modern web browser, so does it matter?

Then why bother with the desktop client at all?

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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If you like Notion but are looking for something open source, similarly polished and more wiki-focused then this will be up your street - http://getoutline.com We've been building it for 2 years, happy to answer questions.

Looks great, except I cannot use it because, I don't have a google company account nor a slack account. It seems that self-hosting solution requires those accounts too.

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Agreed. The login scenario has me highly dubious about going all-in with Notion.

I actually love their login, but it's not for the reason you would think. They expire the session very frequently which has been an annoyance for me, so log-in with the magic link has been faster than digging for the password through my manager.

Digging? Doesn't your browser autofill it for you?

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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On-prem enterprise software does make money. You still charge money for it either way. A few examples: Github Enterpise, JIRA, etc. And notion doesn't need to see their users data to charge money for a service. They could engineer it to be E2E encrypted for the group and not have the ability to see their customers data even with a subpoena.

Enterprise is the key word here. Much more companies care about having control over their infrastructure. As for Notion, I guess even on Hacker News only a small share of users would care enough.

The ideal model for me is third-party syncing with client side encryption. That is:

1) sell me apps (desktop, mobile),

2) let me sync the content via my choice of providers (dropbox, iCloud, google drive, my own WebDAV server, etc)

3) Let me manually enter a strong password/key in all of my clients to E2E the data, so I don't really need to trust that sync provider.

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