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Post by zeveb »

Paul-ish wrote: post #77
fao_ wrote: post #33

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> but this addon promises to restore it Mozilla did the same with tab groups, then the addon was abandoned. The replacement that is compatible with the new form of extension isn't able to unload the tabs, just hide them, which undoes most of the performance benefits. [abraham simpson voice] It'll happen to you too! [/abraham simpson voice] /jk

The addon was abandoned by its author because Mozilla was making major changes to the addon API at the time. Extensions used to have carte blanche to change the browser, which was a security risk, not to mention it made threading/parallelizing the browser hard. The new extension API removed a lot of that freedom. After the API change, it wasn't possible (and might still not be) to develop a useful tab groups addon wi…

> Extensions used to have carte blanche to change the browser, which was a security risk …

I don't buy that. It's my browser running on my computer, it's my choice whose code I choose to run on it.

If, say, emacs or vi had this kind of handholding, neither one would be much more than a text editor.

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Post by sorenjan »

kentosi wrote: post #172

Good work guys. For those using Firefox, I have one question. Is there any way to replicate Chrome's tab-to-search feature? It's literally the ONLY reason I'm still on Chrome. Let me explain by showing how I would search for "apples" in youtube across both browsers. Firefox: 1 - Ctrl+L (go to location bar) 2 - Type "you", press "down" to select youtube from history. 3 - Wait for site to load...... 4 - Click on search…

Firefox have a search bar for this purpose. Isn't Chrome sending everything you type in the omnibar, including urls and search queries, to Google?

To search for "apples" on Youtube, press Ctrl-E to focus on the search bar, type "apples", click on the Youtube icon or press Ctrl-down/up arrow to choose Youtube, then enter.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/search/?type=search

Re: Firefox 64 Released

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Post by PuffinBlue »

BoumTAC wrote: post #185
kentosi wrote: post #172

Good work guys. For those using Firefox, I have one question. Is there any way to replicate Chrome's tab-to-search feature? It's literally the ONLY reason I'm still on Chrome. Let me explain by showing how I would search for "apples" in youtube across both browsers. Firefox: 1 - Ctrl+L (go to location bar) 2 - Type "you", press "down" to select youtube from history. 3 - Wait for site to load...... 4 - Click on search…

Yes but it isn't as good as google. Go to youtube. Right click on the youtube search bar. add a keyword for this search. choose your keyword (ex: yt) now you can type in the omnibar "yt my search" and it will do directly the search. It's not as good as chrome solution but it's the only thing for now.

Wow, that's absolutely awesome. It respects container tabs too (search opens in YouTube container tab if launched from any other container).

This'll actually make a measurable difference to me on a daily basis with how much I search youtube for study at the moment. Thanks.

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Post by pmoriarty »

trulyrandom wrote: post #319
pmoriarty wrote: post #308

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"What's your setup like?" Currently I'm using an old, slow laptop, with a graphics card integrated in to the motherboard. Nothing special. But I don't do any demanding graphics processing on it. I just watch movies and use web browsers and a terminal. I don't play graphically intense games on it. "With regards to security, the main issue is that X11 provides no isolation between applications, allowing them to listen…

Right, if you already have malware running on your system, all bets are off. However, I'm sure you're aware that large applications like Chromium have tons of vulnerabilities, which is why they come with a sandbox to protect against exploitation. X11 is one of the biggest holes in these sandbox solutions. Replacing X11 with Wayland would plug this hole. I'd argue that security is something the average user cares abou…

If your web browser is compromised, that's malware running on your system right there.

A compromised web browser doesn't need X to control the rest of your system. It can usually already write all over your system and perform all sorts of other attacks, including substituting applications, paths, LD_LIBRARY_PATH, etc.. not to mention try kernel exploits and the like -- not that they'd need to on a single-user system, as they could just get your sudo password by one of the other means mentioned above, all without touching X.

Anyway, if a typical user's browser is compromised, they're already completely screwed, as they typically access their online banking and webmail through it. Once again, the attacker does not need to touch X to get access to any of that.

To me it still sounds like Wayland's security model is trying to solve a niche problem that most X users don't really suffer from -- and charging an arm and a leg for it.

Re: Firefox 64 Released

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Post by 8_hours_ago »

oblio wrote: post #256
detaro wrote: post #183

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I'd argue that manually adding each site individually is not "even simpler".

Does Chrome do it for random site searches? Not for Google properties.

Chrome automatically adds sites if they have an OpenSearch description document: https://www.chromium.org/tab-to-search

Firefox requires the user to add the search engine manually: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/add-or-remove-search-en...

Re: Firefox 64 Released

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Post by 8_hours_ago »

ljoshua wrote: post #196
chocolatkey wrote: post #181

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I love that feature too. It uses the opensearch spec, and shouldn't be hard to implement

Ah wow, I had always wondered what magic was behind this feature! Had no idea there was a spec about it, that makes tons of sense.

Here's a description of the spec, if you are interested: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/OpenSearch

Firefox uses it to populate the search bar drop down menu with the available search engines for a site, but it does not add them automatically like Chrome does.

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Post by moosingin3space »

peshooo wrote: post #154
kevincrane wrote: post #120

> We’re excited to introduce multiple tab selection, which makes it easier to manage windows with many open tabs. Simply hold Control (Windows, Linux) or Command (macOS) and click on tabs to select them. Once selected, click and drag to move the tabs as a group — either within a given window, or out into a new window. Yessss. It doesn't happen often, but the times when I open up 6-10 tabs for research but then decide…

In cases like this I used to open a new window and use this plugin [0] to move them fast, because dragging tabs between windows seems very finicky to me in Firefox. Hopefully with this update things will improve. [0] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/movetab/

I actually wrote my own extension to do quick tab movement across multiple windows (often on different monitors/workspaces) all from the keyboard: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/workspaces-fo...

Re: Firefox 64 Released

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Post by cpeterso »

ainar-g wrote: post #283
BoumTAC wrote: post #185

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Yes but it isn't as good as google. Go to youtube. Right click on the youtube search bar. add a keyword for this search. choose your keyword (ex: yt) now you can type in the omnibar "yt my search" and it will do directly the search. It's not as good as chrome solution but it's the only thing for now.

You sir/mam have just revolutionised by browsing experience. I now love FF even more.

Here is more detail about creating custom keyword searches. For example, I have a Bugzilla keyword search so the keyword "bug" will expand the URL "https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=%s". Thus, entering "bug 1000000" in the address bar will expand to "https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1000000".

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-search-from-address...

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