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MacBook Pro with i9 chip is throttled due to thermal issues, claims YouTuber

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Re: MacBook Pro with i9 chip is throttled due to thermal issues, claims YouTuber

#331

At this point, people in the Mac hardware engineering leadership need to start submitting their resignations or being forced out. This kind of sloppy engineering and lack of product focus is the antithesis of what Apple has stood for. If I were Tim Cook I would fire Dan Riccio, and then resign myself and hand the company over to someone who cares about products and not supply chain optimization. Also the whole execut…

The Executive team had nothing to do with the Memoji’s. It was probably someone from marketing or their web team. Why even bring that up? It doesn’t help your argument at all.

Re: MacBook Pro with i9 chip is throttled due to thermal issues, claims YouTuber

#332
Is this due to their focus on iphone and ipad? Probably and very likely, if I remember, most of their hardware talent had been pulled at some point to work on things that bring more money, these products get less attention. Looks like mac line upgrade cycles suffers due to that, don't quote me though....

But on the other hand this is good that it a came out, should be fixed in next upgrade I would assume, no wonder we got huge bump spec, people voiced their concerns loudly.

Re: MacBook Pro with i9 chip is throttled due to thermal issues, claims YouTuber

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post #277

I bought the MacBook Pro 2017 13" without touch bar with an i7. I pretty happy with it, but, the only thing that bothers me is it gets hot. Hot as hell. Skype sharing the screen and JetBrains CLion and you get a beautiful roaster.

FYI, I went through the same experience as you and returned it after discovering the non-touchbar model has one less fan. Apple clearly hates the customers who don't want to buy the touch bar model.

Too late. It's been a while since I have it.

The temperature is something that bothers me but is usable, I guess.

Re: MacBook Pro with i9 chip is throttled due to thermal issues, claims YouTuber

#334

At this point, people in the Mac hardware engineering leadership need to start submitting their resignations or being forced out. This kind of sloppy engineering and lack of product focus is the antithesis of what Apple has stood for. If I were Tim Cook I would fire Dan Riccio, and then resign myself and hand the company over to someone who cares about products and not supply chain optimization. Also the whole execut…

> If I were Tim Cook I would fire Dan Riccio, and then resign myself and hand the company over to someone who cares about products and not supply chain optimization.

You mean, if you were someone who cared about product, couldn't execute on it yourself, but also had the capacity to direct Tim Cook’s actions, you would cause Tim Cook to do all that.

If you were Tim Cook, you would either not have the concern that motivates this or you wouldn't need to resign to have someone who cares about product in charge.

Re: MacBook Pro with i9 chip is throttled due to thermal issues, claims YouTuber

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post #250

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> since modern thermal pastes are non-conductive, there is no real downside to an enthusiastic application of paste except for making a mess, so you want to default to putting too much on rather than having some dumb intern kill a PC with an insufficient application. There is virtually no effect on thermals. The effect on thermals are absolutely not insignificant. Thermal pastes are actually extremely bad at transfer…

> For example, the thermal conductivity of a high-grade thermal paste is 8.5 W/mK, and the heat conductivity of copper is 385 W/mK, or for aluminum 205 W/mK. You can see that the thermal compound is actually a poor heat conductor and that is exactly the reason why you only need a very thin layer of paste to fill the micro imperfections between the IHS and heatsink. This has always been my rule of thumb whether it's m…

For what it's worth, Arctic Silver recommend not to use your finger, on account of dead skin cells and grease.

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Re: MacBook Pro with i9 chip is throttled due to thermal issues, claims YouTuber

#336
post #331

At this point, people in the Mac hardware engineering leadership need to start submitting their resignations or being forced out. This kind of sloppy engineering and lack of product focus is the antithesis of what Apple has stood for. If I were Tim Cook I would fire Dan Riccio, and then resign myself and hand the company over to someone who cares about products and not supply chain optimization. Also the whole execut…

The Executive team had nothing to do with the Memoji’s. It was probably someone from marketing or their web team. Why even bring that up? It doesn’t help your argument at all.

Actually I agree with him, it's fairly unprofessional, and i'm usually one for casual but it just feels immature.

Re: MacBook Pro with i9 chip is throttled due to thermal issues, claims YouTuber

#337

At this point, people in the Mac hardware engineering leadership need to start submitting their resignations or being forced out. This kind of sloppy engineering and lack of product focus is the antithesis of what Apple has stood for. If I were Tim Cook I would fire Dan Riccio, and then resign myself and hand the company over to someone who cares about products and not supply chain optimization. Also the whole execut…

If Tim Cook hasn't stepped down over all apple failures he's overseen, he's not going to do it because the new MacBook gets hot.

Re: MacBook Pro with i9 chip is throttled due to thermal issues, claims YouTuber

#338

At this point, people in the Mac hardware engineering leadership need to start submitting their resignations or being forced out. This kind of sloppy engineering and lack of product focus is the antithesis of what Apple has stood for. If I were Tim Cook I would fire Dan Riccio, and then resign myself and hand the company over to someone who cares about products and not supply chain optimization. Also the whole execut…

Get out my head!!! What jackasses at apple!!!

Re: MacBook Pro with i9 chip is throttled due to thermal issues, claims YouTuber

#339

Is this due to their focus on iphone and ipad? Probably and very likely, if I remember, most of their hardware talent had been pulled at some point to work on things that bring more money, these products get less attention. Looks like mac line upgrade cycles suffers due to that, don't quote me though.... But on the other hand this is good that it a came out, should be fixed in next upgrade I would assume, no wonder w…

I think it was the software team. MacOS dev team was inexplicably merged with the IOS dev team and that's when quality of macOS really plummeted, with laughable security issues every other week

Re: MacBook Pro with i9 chip is throttled due to thermal issues, claims YouTuber

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post #252

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been doing hours-long CPU+GPU intensive tasks (compiling ghc, number crunching, playing games like Bioshock Infinite and StarCraft II on a HD4000) on a bunch of pre-retina MBP and rMBP 13" and they never throttled. Thermal design and management is spot on, fans stay silent most of the time and kick in only when load requires it. Beware of anecdata. Given the stories I hear I would squarely put the various issues…

> I've been doing hours-long CPU+GPU intensive tasks (compiling ghc, number crunching, playing games like Bioshock Infinite and StarCraft II on a HD4000) on a bunch of pre-retina MBP and rMBP 13" and they never throttled. I find that hard to believe. I have been gaming a lot on MacBook Pro unibodies and retinas with and without an external GPUs. Especially when the internal GPU is active, the thermal load is just too…

It isn't throttling if it is operating at or above base clock.
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