Employers will do almost anything to find workers except pay them more

Post by bluGill » Wed, Jul 11, 2018, 3:52 PM UTC

annabellish wrote: post #302

segmondy wrote: post #258

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Don't buy that. I think it's the media. There are so many reality TV shows and the participants are living in nice houses, driving nice cars. Even movies are fucking unrealistic, you can watch a movie about someone earning minimum wage, yet they live in NYC, in a massive apartment with high ceiling or drive a nice car. The rubbish on TV, both fiction and nonfiction are so far from reality. Yet most consumers desire f…

Fancy phones and watches are, given the current state of most carriers, not actually _that_ much more significant an expense than a cheaper device month to month. You can "buy" that explanation or not, but there's a lot of research and evidence backing up the idea that a huge fraction of the western world lives essentially paycheck to paycheck, and it's not because all of them are less financially savvy than you or I…

Post by rglullis » Wed, Jul 11, 2018, 3:54 PM UTC

germanier wrote: post #330

rglullis wrote: post #214

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No, more like a social security system separate for the artist "class". If you manage to declare yourself as an artist, they pay a substantial part of your health insurance, social security, etc... All funded by us, poor feeble minded workers with no creative bone in our bodies, to support 20-somethings and eternal Peter Pans who can't keep a job.

The Künstlersozialkasse is funded by companies which utilize creative work such as publishers, media, ad agencies, museums, etc.

Post by bluGill » Wed, Jul 11, 2018, 4:03 PM UTC

hamilyon2 wrote: post #231

Well, I guess, this may be good. If a lot of dollars seek few resources, and resources pool does not increase much, you get unbounded price increase. Which is not good. Developer have to do something productive for economy. Their wages should be bound to value they produce. If they are consistently paid more then they are producing, whole sector is heading into collapse. In healthy job market, job ads are going to at…

Post by jimbofisher1 » Wed, Jul 11, 2018, 4:09 PM UTC

AnimalMuppet wrote: post #319

jimbofisher1 wrote: post #310

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Not that I disagree with the idea but do you have evidence that the average person is actually increasing spending every time they get a raise?

An individual employee may do almost anything. But most of them won't decrease spending when given a raise. Some may spend exactly the same as before. The rest will spend more. Do those who spend more outnumber those who spend less? I have no data, but I would be astonished if those who spent less outweighed those who spent more.

Post by annabellish » Wed, Jul 11, 2018, 4:16 PM UTC

bluGill wrote: post #331

annabellish wrote: post #302

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Fancy phones and watches are, given the current state of most carriers, not actually _that_ much more significant an expense than a cheaper device month to month. You can "buy" that explanation or not, but there's a lot of research and evidence backing up the idea that a huge fraction of the western world lives essentially paycheck to paycheck, and it's not because all of them are less financially savvy than you or I…

My advice is you make sure you have your savings in gear and then live paycheck to paycheck. That is you fund your 401k (IRA, HSA, ...), and set aside some emergency savings. However unless you have a specific short term goal in mind you should be spending everything else and enjoying life to the best of your remaining income. Of course that $8/month difference isn't much savings, but it is a lunch out vs heating lef…