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#331

It feels good to complain on HN, but we all will be contacting our representatives, and following the EFF’s campaigning, won’t we? Please?

What if we teamed up as a community to draft a bill, then lobbied Congress to pass it?

Edit: Restated as a question.

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#332

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How is having a different opinion trolling?

Because you are all over the thread complaining about immigrants stealing jobs when, obviously, that is not the point being discussed here.

I'm just asking questions

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#333

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One nice thing about having a President with 50%+ disapproval [1] is all the things that got swept under the rug, previously, can now be made alarming. This might be an unintended way the system clears detritus and scope creep. [1] https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/...

Isn't it always the case that the President has "disapproval" ratings around 50% though? Half the country tends to like the person they voted for, and half the country has sour grapes because their side lost. Obama's disapproval ratings also hovered above 50% at several points in his Presidency [1]. So it isn't Trump's "disapproval" ratings that are new for any President, it's the level of hatred that the press has f…

Trump's disapproval ratings are very different to the usual ratings at the start of a presidency, which tend to be higher, and Obama's average rating was higher than Trump's highest ever rating (even Obama's lowest ratings are about the same as that). It is just nonsense to pretend that Trump's ratings are "right in the same range" as Obama.

http://news.gallup.com/interactives/185273/presidential-job-...?

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#334

People I've spoken to seem more comfortable acting like this is part of the current administration's agenda, rather than an encroaching trend which has been gradually getting worse year upon year. For example this specific policy was added as an "optional" (not really) question on an entry form before the 2016 presidential elections (I know, I wrote a letter protesting it during public comment period). My point is: B…

Under the previous administration, there was a special policy for Iranian students made so that their visa date interview collide with the beginning of their semester and they would be under-enrolled at the critical date and lose their visa immediately. Some universities had to create special programs with different dates for those students. (now they are outright banned from applying for a visa)

Do you have a source for that? This claim sounds especially far-fetched given that the number of Iranian college students in the US more tripled over that time https://www.iie.org/Research-and-Insights/Open-Doors/Data/In...

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#335

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Then why is there zero scrutiny on babies born into citizenship? Countries always manage to excuse their own people even when they're a disproportionately high cause of crime.

> Countries always manage to excuse their own people Countries are abstraction. “Their own people” are the concrete components making up the country, and, in even in the theoretical ideal, the people all of their policies serve.

Before a baby is born, it's not yet a person making up the country, just as an citizenship applicant isn't yet either. The latter is easier to evaluate for "goodness", but I don't think that's the reason people tolerate all babies to readily. It's probably because the baby's parents are citizens and feel like having a citizen baby is their right. What if an immigrant's citizen spouse felt like having their partner be a citizen was a right too? I guess those people are too much of a minority to affect immigration laws. So yea, it's to serve the existing citizens but still arbitrary.

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#336

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> Conversely, it makes running an opposition campaign so easy that the opposition won't need to focus on the big issues. Just over 50% disapproval isn't actually that easy to beat; its enough to draw strong candidates of diverse viewpoints into the opposition primary (rather than them sitting out as often happens with a strong incumbent), but not solid enough for opposition complacency. Of course, that number could m…

I don't think being a corporate mouthpiece was the reason Hillary lost; I think it had more to do with her lack of charisma and the many years of media that had engendered a deep feeling of mistrust towards her. Obama was almost as corporate as her, in my opinion, except he was much more well spoken and likable. Biden is along the same lines and it looks like he's gearing up for a run for the presidency. Also as elec…

Obama at least had the decency to take his corporate pay, i.e. 1/4 million dollar speech engagements, after he left the presidency. Hillary Clinton made over $10 million dollars in 2014 for just giving speeches.

But really, there is not one single overriding reason that she lost the election, but a different combination of reasons in all the millions that voted for Trump/against Clinton.

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#337
post #107

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It's not just immigrants. I'm a citizen and am flying back from a two week trip to Japan today. One of the things that really stands out every time I make this trip is how pleasant, friendly, and helpful the Japanese customs and immigration agents are compared to the un-wiped ass wrinkles that are their American counterparts. I honestly think it is possible to assess those entering the U.S. without being a complete a…

I travel internationally frequently and have never had trouble with US Customs. I think Argentina was the one I've had the most trouble with, and that was minor.

I travel internationally all the time as well, and my experience is that US immigration and customs treat people like suspects whereas their counterparts in Japan, and other countries I frequently visit, treat people like welcome guests.

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Oppression is a good start.

There are a lot of people who call this "due diligence." Receiving permission to visit a country is a privilege, not a right. This trend of wanting better data before making decisions is the natural result of there being better data available on which to make it. Banks, loan officers, job offerers, and now nation states are each equally right in taking advantage of whatever you've chosen to put out there in public. I…

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#339

People I've spoken to seem more comfortable acting like this is part of the current administration's agenda, rather than an encroaching trend which has been gradually getting worse year upon year. For example this specific policy was added as an "optional" (not really) question on an entry form before the 2016 presidential elections (I know, I wrote a letter protesting it during public comment period). My point is: B…

One nice thing about having a President with 50%+ disapproval [1] is all the things that got swept under the rug, previously, can now be made alarming. This might be an unintended way the system clears detritus and scope creep. [1] https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/...

> https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/...

Check out George W. Bush's ratings in the comparisons below the fold - massive spike peaking at a little less than 90% approval right around 9/11, and almost always staying above 50%. I really thought he was unpopular.

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#340
post #85

I'm not sure I'm planning to visit the US ever again, but if I did, what would count as social media? Does HN count? Does my blog? IRC nickname? Github and Bitbucket accounts? I've never had a Facebook, Twitter, Snapchat, Instagram, Pinterest or LinkedIn account. The only thing I guess unequivocally counts as social media is my Mastodon accounts.

These were on my ESTA application last summer:

ASKfm

Facebook

Flickr

GitHub

Google+

Instagram

JustPaste.it

LinkedIn

Tumblr

Twitter

Vine

VKontakte (VK)

YouTube

Other

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