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Re: Parents now spend twice as much time with their children as 50 years ago

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Post by bjoli » Thu, Nov 30, 2017, 7:59 AM UTC

liveoneggs wrote: post #298

bjoli wrote: post #277

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Accepting that my needs come second and just generally trying to make things smooth for my son has made our relationship so much better. I used to think that I would be able to get an hour or two of work done when he was asleep,but the result was never good. I was stressed out after my third month of paternity leave. For the remaining months (we get 195 days to use as we please at 80% pay in Sweden) I just called dow…

I got 15 days and thought it was generous.

Northern Europe social democracy has it's perks.

We get 195 days/parent at 80% pay (my union has however negotiated an extra 10% if I take most of those days consecutive during the first two years after the child was born).

Then we get an extra 45 days/parent with something like 100-150 SEK/day.

Until this year there was an extra bonus when the parental leave was shared equally between parents, so we got an extra 15k SEK (~$2k).

Re: Parents now spend twice as much time with their children as 50 years ago

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Post by andrewmu » Thu, Nov 30, 2017, 9:54 AM UTC

chrisseaton wrote: post #279

ordu wrote: post #187

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I learnt from psychologist that there are ways to help newborn to get asleep. Newborn is in a very uncomfortable conditions for him. He used to be in a liquid environment. It was very noisy environment: there was a lot of sounds made by mothers body, digesting and more importantly heartbeat. It was dark there. But now he is on the air, he need to breathe, he hears silence with interruptions by some sharp sounds (in t…

Why do people write ‘baby’ or ‘newborn’ with no article like that? Surely it’s ‘a baby’ or ‘the baby’ or ‘your baby’ or maybe ‘babies’ if you mean in general. Just ‘baby’ sounds like broken English. You wouldn’t write ‘manager sent me an email’, you’d write ‘my manager’ or something like that with an article.

To be fair, some English speakers will say baby to mean a particular unnamed infant. For example, a midwife or childcare adviser will talk about what to do "when baby gets home" or "If baby is hungry.." etc.

Re: Parents now spend twice as much time with their children as 50 years ago

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Post by roflchoppa » Thu, Nov 30, 2017, 9:58 AM UTC

jhbadger wrote: post #304

SamBam wrote: post #126

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Not sure which ones, but my friend's five-year-old girl spends her time watching videos of and older girl showing off her Brand-Name Doll, and all the accessories you can buy for it, and how isn't it just so cute when I put her in THIS accessory , and tune in tomorrow for more accessories you can buy... That definitely makes me sick.

True, but in the 1970s when I was a kid, I watched a lot of Saturday Morning cartoons which had a lot of toy ads, and my father's comic books had toy ads too. Selling crap to children too young to understand advertising has a long history.

yeah I remember seeing those ads when I was a child as well, however I think that the invasiveness has increased. the children have this "relationship" with people on youtube, where the youtuber addresses the whole audience, but in a way that children might perceive as friendliness, while the intentions may not be so genuine.

Re: Parents now spend twice as much time with their children as 50 years ago

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Post by widforss » Thu, Nov 30, 2017, 11:40 AM UTC

ordu wrote: post #187

kelukelugames wrote: post #5

> One analysis of 11 rich countries estimates that the average mother spent 54 minutes a day caring for children in 1965 but 104 minutes in 2012. Men do less than women, but far more than men in the past: their child-caring time has jumped from 16 minutes a day to 59. I spend 100+ minutes every day changing diapers. Actually that's not true, most of my time is spent trying to put the stupid newborn to go to sleep. I…

I learnt from psychologist that there are ways to help newborn to get asleep. Newborn is in a very uncomfortable conditions for him. He used to be in a liquid environment. It was very noisy environment: there was a lot of sounds made by mothers body, digesting and more importantly heartbeat. It was dark there. But now he is on the air, he need to breathe, he hears silence with interruptions by some sharp sounds (in t…

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Re: Parents now spend twice as much time with their children as 50 years ago

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Post by taejo » Thu, Nov 30, 2017, 1:16 PM UTC

skinner_ wrote: post #330

NLips wrote: post #281

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The whole comment is written with fewer articles than you'd expect for good English - my guess is that the commenter is not a native speaker, rather than trying to be cutesy.

Now that's the real difference between a native and a non-native speaker: As a non-native speaker, I'd probably put about the right amount of articles in there, but I can't even imagine why dropping them sounds 'cutesy'. Probably most of my sentences randomly project 'cutesy' or 'geeky' or 'obnoxious'. And it happens on a subconscious level even if you know that I'm not a native speaker.

Referring to "a baby" as "baby" is cutesy because it kind of treats "baby" as a name, or perhaps because it immitates the way young children talk. In normal circumstances dropping articles just makes you sound foreign.

Re: Parents now spend twice as much time with their children as 50 years ago

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Post by GFischer » Thu, Nov 30, 2017, 3:12 PM UTC

brandonmenc wrote: post #270

junkscience2017 wrote: post #101

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early teens. they should be outside.

Teenagers don't really play outside. I was outside all the time before age 13 - after that I started going to the mall and talking on the phone and working on the computer in lieu of outdoor activities. This was back in the early 90s. No need to panic.

Don't you have an equivalent to football (soccer) wherever you are?

I've heard many parents of teenagers complaining that it's hard to get them off their football matches (5-a-side soccer is huge here, and any street can become an impromptu pitch).

Of course, depends on the kid, you couldn't take me off books and computers (when available) as a teenager.