Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Ravens OL John Urschel, 26, retires abruptly, two days after CTE study

espn.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

331–340 of 352 posts

Re: Ravens OL John Urschel, 26, retires abruptly, two days after CTE study

#331

Post by pfisch »

skybrian wrote: post #321
sillysaurus3 wrote: post #210

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is the secret to happiness as far as I am concerned; measure your days by how much you've learned not by how much you have earned. Yet the vast majority of the time, this sentiment comes from people who are well-off, e.g. someone with an MIT PhD and an almost impossible-to-screw-up future. There are at least two possibilities. Either people who aren't well-off are just sour grapes, or they deal with a lot more t…

On the other hand, there are ways you can risk your health for money, where the reverse trade isn't possible for any amount of money. So, getting back to the article, retiring early seems like a good trade.

Of course the reverse trade is possible. Vitamins, Trainers, Chefs that make you healthy meals, weird medical procedures: https://hiddenremote.com/2017/05/21/yes-blood-boy-silicon-va...

Re: Ravens OL John Urschel, 26, retires abruptly, two days after CTE study

#332

Post by mwfunk »

sillysaurus3 wrote: post #210
ChuckMcM wrote: post #184

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is the secret to happiness as far as I am concerned; measure your days by how much you've learned not by how much you have earned. Interesting to know about the retirement 'vest' of 3 years. If he lives another 60 years that is a bit more than $1.25M.

That is the secret to happiness as far as I am concerned; measure your days by how much you've learned not by how much you have earned. Yet the vast majority of the time, this sentiment comes from people who are well-off, e.g. someone with an MIT PhD and an almost impossible-to-screw-up future. There are at least two possibilities. Either people who aren't well-off are just sour grapes, or they deal with a lot more t…

I think of it as, money can't buy happiness, but poverty can create unhappiness. I do think it's important for most people's happiness to get to a point where they can earn enough (at a job they don't hate) to never have to worry about how they're going to pay next month's bills or whether or not they can afford everything they need from the grocery store. Having to worry about stuff like that is a constant source of stress that wears away at whatever happiness someone does have in their life.

Beyond that level of income, whatever it is, people don't necessarily get happier, but they at least have more resources to work with. Depending on the person, and depending on whatever tradeoffs are made to get that higher income, they might figure out how to turn more money into more happiness, or they might not. That's more dependent on what makes an individual happy.

Re: Ravens OL John Urschel, 26, retires abruptly, two days after CTE study

#333

Post by hi41 »

ChuckMcM wrote: post #184
brandall10 wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's worth reading his 2015 article "Why I Still Play Football": https://www.theplayerstribune.com/why-i-play-football/ . Regarding mathematics as a career and his outlook on the financial issue - "I have a bright career ahead of me in mathematics. Beyond that, I have the means to make a good living and provide for my family, without playing football. I have no desire to try to accumulate $10 million in the bank; I a…

That is the secret to happiness as far as I am concerned; measure your days by how much you've learned not by how much you have earned. Interesting to know about the retirement 'vest' of 3 years. If he lives another 60 years that is a bit more than $1.25M.

Well said, Chuck! >measure your days by how much you've learned not by how much you have earned Now that is something I must learn.

Re: Ravens OL John Urschel, 26, retires abruptly, two days after CTE study

#334

Post by chrismealy »

ineptech wrote: post #34

Has "whether you let your kids play football" joined the long, long list of boolean values that separate members of the Red Tribe from the Blue Tribe? If not, I think it's inevitable that it will. Someone will try to get their school to close its football program, someone else will complain that the health dangers are exaggerated by the liberal media because football is a red-state passtime, and pretty soon it'll be…

All those African-Americans playing in the NFL, you think they're Republicans?

Re: Ravens OL John Urschel, 26, retires abruptly, two days after CTE study

#335

Post by nikofeyn »

herthdrht3 wrote: post #266
nikofeyn wrote: post #253

Earlier quoted context omitted.

i get out plenty. my apartment is even under market. i don't live with roommates. there is literally no way to get an apartment anywhere close to 50% cheaper by yourself in the market i am in. my experience is perfectly normal here. even in my previous city (a major US city), my rent was only 50% less than it is now. and in that market it would be equally as hard to find one at 50% of that price. if you live for a qu…

No roommates, just a different market. I live in Minneapolis which I do consider to be a great place. That said, the vast majority of Americans live in "different markets" than what you've described, so you might do well to understand how 24k/yr in rent is not normal for most people.

i suppose the disconnect happening in the replies is that people assume i meant normal in my rent amount. my original comment was meant to compare what an nfl player, with a family i might add, supposedly lives off of in entire year to my, me being a middle class single person, yearly rent (whether that rent is high or low or normal). so sure, he and many may live much cheaper. but cheap enough such that his taxes, utilities, food, family care, general bills, purchases, etc. all still add up to $24,000. i doubt it without heavy caveats to that number he gave.

Re: Ravens OL John Urschel, 26, retires abruptly, two days after CTE study

#336

Post by carapace »

ineptech wrote: post #34

Has "whether you let your kids play football" joined the long, long list of boolean values that separate members of the Red Tribe from the Blue Tribe? If not, I think it's inevitable that it will. Someone will try to get their school to close its football program, someone else will complain that the health dangers are exaggerated by the liberal media because football is a red-state passtime, and pretty soon it'll be…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcastaball South Park did it.

Re: Ravens OL John Urschel, 26, retires abruptly, two days after CTE study

#337

Post by carapace »

heygrady wrote: post #323
jpttsn wrote: post #272

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pretty sure we're talking past one another here. Thought experiment: if I describe a topic in the forest, and nobody is there to hear it, am I still being divisive?

One wonders why you would say divisive things aloud in an otherwise lonely forest. Saying something hurtful, offensive, divisive, unnecessary... is problematic regardless of the size of the audience. You can see that the original "divisive" comment [1] on this thread sparked a large response. It's true that a HackerNews thread has a lower global-political impact than, say, a presidential tweet or a Supreme Court ruli…

I once accidentally started an argument at a party about whether to let the toilet paper hang over the front of the roll or the back by mentioning how funny it was that people would argue over something so trivial.

(It's extra-funny because all right-thinking people know that it's obviously better to have it hang over the front of the roll. Sheesh!)

Re: Ravens OL John Urschel, 26, retires abruptly, two days after CTE study

#338

Post by carapace »

jbigelow76 wrote: post #295
sangnoir wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I am deriding the sort of discourse that topics like this usually produce You have become what you hate - you are the one who introduced the subject. Its like "Has anyone compared $TOPIC to Nazis yet? This subject has a tendency to be Godwinned".

Maybe we should stop pretending we all start in the middle and then get pulled to the extremes as we are exposed to either (un)biasing information. Maybe we should assume that all wells have already been poisoned (just a saying not a value judgement), science or religion, figure out which team already claimed you and defend your tribe.

Okay, well my tribe is the tribe of people who aren't in a tribe. We all get along with each other just fine but boy do we hate those other guys.

Re: Ravens OL John Urschel, 26, retires abruptly, two days after CTE study

#339

Post by jrwiegand »

Yeah, it is likely the smartest decision for him. I have watched him play his whole career (Ravens fan). He is good but he would have likely bounced around the league as a backup and got cut in the next few years due to age. With this decision he is starting a career that will be enjoyable, safe and well paying. You cannot beat that. Good luck #64.

Re: Ravens OL John Urschel, 26, retires abruptly, two days after CTE study

#340

Post by cookiecaper »

kasey_junk wrote: post #288
cookiecaper wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"A lot of money" is also known as "Fuck you money". Enough money that you can say "fuck you" to anyone without worrying about the consequences. $1M is not even close to that, especially not for a young guy who has to pay for the next 60 years of his and his family's existence. Don't get me wrong, it's a good starting point, and you can definitely be reasonably secure on it if you invest wisely and continue to work (e…

I hate that term. There is no such thing. Bill Gates can't tell the President "fuck you" and the President can't tell the Pope "fuck you". We live in an interconnected world and there isn't enough money in the world to make your actions consequence proof.

It's not about being "consequence proof", because as you note, it's never possible to avoid the consequences of one's actions. It's just about being independent.

An independent person does not need the goodwill or approval of any other person or small group for their well-being or prosperity. If you are ever going to need a paycheck again, this is by definition not you.

Independence ("fuck you money") is about being able to be honest with anyone, even if it means giving a measured, well-deserved "fuck you", without having to worry that your ability to feed and clothe your kids will be jeopardized. It's not about being above the law or anything like that.

Post reply on HN