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Microsoft Paint to be killed off after 32 years

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Re: Microsoft Paint to be killed off after 32 years

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"Find" in Notepad does not wrap around to the start of the document, and has no option to do so, so in order to search the whole document you have to put the cursor at the start. That's bone-headed behavior and should've been fixed a decade ago.

Hmmm... I had no idea. I think I've run into that bug many times without knowing. I would still rather they don't touch it than start adding features, because we know the first thing they'd add is the ribbon which has no business being on a text editor with 4 options.

Hahaha! That was funny. True Indeed that's the first thing they want to add.

Re: Microsoft Paint to be killed off after 32 years

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It sounds like you could really take advantage of Greenshot. http://getgreenshot.org

How is it different from the built-in snippingtool.exe?

Snipping tool doesn't have shapes or text input, all the tools are freehand. I don't want to email a client with chicken scratch that looks like a child's doodle, that's unprofessional.

Re: Microsoft Paint to be killed off after 32 years

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Pity that they don't open source it. I've gone through multiple image editors on Linux, and none of them have the simplicity of Paint. The layout and functionality is incredibly intuitive. You drop someone into Paint, and even if they've never seen it before, they can start doing stuff within a minute or so. You drop the same person into GIMP, and five minutes later they're still trying to figure out how the hell to…

I was about to suggest XPaint as being equally simple, but it might be more complex than I thought: > Recent versions have support for advanced image manipulations (image zooming and resizing, filters, color modifications, separation of RGB channels), scripting, layers, edition of alpha channel and of transparent images, vector formats import, truetype fonts and anti-aliasing, geometric transformations of such fonts,…

XPaint used to be decent, but at some point it got really buggy. You have to save after every operation in case it crashes. Someone ought to go to town on it with valgrind or whatever.

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All the comments that "you can just use X to do Y" is missing the point that Paint just works, for almost every value of Y. No argument, Paint.net is great, snipping tool solves the grab and crop, but for most anything else you need to do in a hurry, you need a quick paint program. It's like removing Notepad: we all know hundreds of editors we would replace it with, from Notepad++ to vim/emacs... but isn't nice that…

> Paint just works That's an exaggeration. It's very limited. There are much more capable free image editors: * Photo Pos Pro * Krita * GIMP or CinePaint There are also many simple Paint-like options: * Pinta * Pixelitor * PaintStar * PhotoScape

GIMP is the only one I'm familiar with, and it doesn't "just work". There is a definite and steep learning curve, including why you can't 'just save an image' like you save any other document.

Re: Microsoft Paint to be killed off after 32 years

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Nick Craver had the most funny tweet on this subject today:

"They’re killing MS Paint in the Windows 10 Fall Update. We’re trying to migrate our design team to alternatives now."

ROFL... had to read that one twice.

https://twitter.com/Nick_Craver/status/889578012273934336

Re: Microsoft Paint to be killed off after 32 years

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post #67

All the comments that "you can just use X to do Y" is missing the point that Paint just works, for almost every value of Y. No argument, Paint.net is great, snipping tool solves the grab and crop, but for most anything else you need to do in a hurry, you need a quick paint program. It's like removing Notepad: we all know hundreds of editors we would replace it with, from Notepad++ to vim/emacs... but isn't nice that…

I still use Paint to crop screen shots when I need to send them to people. Quick and gets it done, on any Windows computer.

I use microsofts snip ( it's part of office, no idea why they don't make it part of windows )

https://mix.office.com/snip

It's replaced most of my need for ms-paint

Re: Microsoft Paint to be killed off after 32 years

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10 yanks away calc.exe and replaces it with the metro version. You have to grab an old copy if you want the original back.

I wonder if you could get into legal trouble if you start to re-distribute calc.exe from older Windows version, as a free download. Probably yes, but it would look so ridiculous if MS lawyers would go after a random person doing that.

The thing is that your Windows 8/7/Vista/XP versions of calc don't even run on Windows 10. The only thing you can run is the Calculator Plus that was released for XP. Of course Microsoft did remove the download for that one.

Re: Microsoft Paint to be killed off after 32 years

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I wanted to hate on this decision but honestly Paint 3D is a much better version of MS Paint.

For instance in MS Paint if you write some text in a textbox and then de-select the textbox it's extremely hard to select it again so that you can edit the text. And if you make a square selection and then use the edges of the square to expand your selection, you'll actually stretch the image under it, which I found unintuitive and odd.

I think the biggest mistake here was creating a new application called Paint 3D and discontinuing the original one. That's bound to create bad PR. Instead they should have "updated" the original Paint to become Paint 3D, just like they "updated" calc.exe.

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