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Re: Apple’s Devices Lose Luster in American Classrooms

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Post by jrnichols » Sun, Mar 05, 2017, 9:03 PM UTC

joezydeco wrote: post #84

thr0waway1239 wrote: post #58

I don't quite understand why people thought iPads were good for content creation in the first place. Also, I think Apple really missed a trick by not going after the education market with a more suitable device. With Windows, you never know what havoc the next update around the corner is going to wreak. And Chromebooks are still quite limited in many different things. By merely having a serious presence in this marke…

In my local school district, gDocs is the key for our switch away from iOS devices. We don't even need the chromebooks, Docs will run on older PCs as well. I don't believe any newer/cheaper hardware from Apple will help here.

> gDocs is the key for our switch away from iOS devices.

This is what I've been seeing as well. And I think that it's scary - Google Docs/etc is helping to lure in a lot of users. The district is on Google email, Google Drive, etc. What's scary to me is that the younger children do not recognize that there is such a thing as "email" that is not "Gmail." They expect everything to function just as their Google apps do.

Hook 'em young is working for Google. Offer the school districts the massive Google backend for a cheap price, and they're hooked. Then sell them Chromebooks "for compatibility" and they're really hooked.

Re: Apple’s Devices Lose Luster in American Classrooms

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Post by jaegerpicker » Mon, Mar 06, 2017, 4:28 PM UTC

Filligree wrote: post #308

jaegerpicker wrote: post #208

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What? Scrivener has LONG had a iPad version https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/scrivener/id972387337?mt=8 Also Bear is another amazing iPad writing app. As good or better than anything on PC IMO. Clearly he's not "wrong", it's almost like people who like the iPad for content creation actually may know what they are talking about.

Leaving aside that I'm on Android... That's still version 1. It won't even open my files.

The versions are different across platforms. Version 1 on iOS WILL open desktop version 2 files. Here is their site where they talk about that: https://www.literatureandlatte.com/scrivener_ios.php

Also we are talking about iOS and Apple in this thread not sure what Android has to do with it.

Re: Apple’s Devices Lose Luster in American Classrooms

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Post by Filligree » Mon, Mar 06, 2017, 5:41 PM UTC

jaegerpicker wrote: post #332

Filligree wrote: post #308

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Leaving aside that I'm on Android... That's still version 1. It won't even open my files.

The versions are different across platforms. Version 1 on iOS WILL open desktop version 2 files. Here is their site where they talk about that: https://www.literatureandlatte.com/scrivener_ios.php Also we are talking about iOS and Apple in this thread not sure what Android has to do with it.

I borrowed an iPad and tried it. The app crashed on trying to open one of my files.

What they claim to support, and what they actually do support, are not necessarily the same thing.

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Post by forgotpwtomain » Mon, Mar 06, 2017, 8:54 PM UTC

nihonde wrote: post #313

forgotpwtomain wrote: post #159

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> If you see iPads as a hindrance to education, you are a terrible teacher. Personal attacks are frowned upon here.

People who live in glass houses...

> If I had been given access to an iPad at age 10, I would have been completely, endlessly obsessed with the possibilities of it...

You could have very well made the rest of your point without the personal attack, which was quite unnecessary and unfounded.

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Post by atonse » Tue, Mar 14, 2017, 2:02 AM UTC

TheRealDunkirk wrote: post #295

atonse wrote: post #284

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No, even in our local mall in a Maryland suburb, the Microsoft store is a few doors down from the Apple store. I think this is a common strategy.

Is the traffic at the MS store there anywhere close to same as the traffic at the Apple store, or is it night-and-day, like Indy?

It's night and day :) The MS store is always empty. It was even empty when the apple store closed for months to expand and renovate.