The cognitive dissonance required to be a trump supporter is quite amazing. For example states that legalized weed but voted for trump.
> The cognitive dissonance required to be a trump supporter is quite amazing I love how the left continues to believe that implying the right are stupid and incapable is still a winning strategy.
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#332Not a new phenomenon. The German scientists fleeing Nazi Germany started the present American scientific lead. The French Hugenots fleeing France caused economic growth.
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#333Earlier quoted context omitted.
> at the expense of talking about why she should be president. Hillary couldn't make that argument because it would've drawn more attention to her most damning flaw: The fact that she's a textbook demagogue who was on the wrong side of every progressive issue until she found it politically expedient to "evolve". That's why so many people were so passionate about Sanders. You could go back to C-SPAN videos from 1992 a…
Having the same opinion for 24 years is not a virtue. In the (probably apocryphal) words of Keynes: > When someone persuades me that I am wrong, I change my mind. What do you do? It's not a sign of vice either; I'm sure he's been believing that the Earth is round for 24+ years, and that's fine. What matters is accuracy, and updating in the face of new evidence, not consistency . Consistency in the face of new evidenc…
But being right for 24 years is.
She adopted his ideas one by one and then tried to pretend they'd been hers all along. Unfortunately (for her), Democrats aren't that gullible. It was clear that she was only saying what voters wanted to hear, while Bernie truly believed everything he'd been saying for that past 25+ years.
Case in point: https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/2631
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#334As someone who's actively vocalized his support for Trump in the past, both here[1] and in my meat space life, I'm ecstatic with the results of this election. Not just the POTUS, but the trifecta of the house and senate as well. That's as loud of a mandate as can be expected from a strongly divided country. On top of all that, with the SCOTUS picks that are expected in the next few years, this election is going to be…
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#335I have a lot of thoughts, but here's one: Hillary focused her entire campaign on why people should stop Trump, at the expense of talking about why she should be president. In general, making the case against someone else rather than the affirmative case for yourself doesn't work. It's reaction versus action. It's undoubtably true now that there was a very real populist anger towards the existing political order, and…
Well that's blatantly false.
That was Trump's entire campaign. All I've heard all year was "Benghazi", "emails" and "crooked", all of which were just rephrasing of the same thing, repeated in perpetuum. It most definitely worked.
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I can't fathom you interpreting the result as a "loud mandate." The presidential race has been extremely tight with ~200,000 separating the two. Is that a clear mandate? No, it is a clear indication of the divisions in our country.
>> Not just the POTUS, but the trifecta of the house and senate as well. That's as loud of a mandate as can be expected from a strongly divided country > I can't fathom you interpreting the result as a "loud mandate." The presidential race has been extremely tight with ~200,000 separating the two. Is that a clear mandate? > No, it is a clear indication of the divisions in our country. Yes, the country is divided. A s…
Only true if the way voting happened didn't disenfranchise voters. Yet we know that the way voting happened, with gerrymandering and discriminatory rules in some states, did disenfranchise voters.
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#337I have a lot of thoughts, but here's one: Hillary focused her entire campaign on why people should stop Trump, at the expense of talking about why she should be president. In general, making the case against someone else rather than the affirmative case for yourself doesn't work. It's reaction versus action. It's undoubtably true now that there was a very real populist anger towards the existing political order, and…
> Hillary focused her entire campaign on why people should stop Trump, at the expense of talking about why she should be president. I couldn't disagree more. This campaign was all about emotion, not rationality. Apparently facts don't matter and that's very hard to deal with.
Facts do matter, and I think it's disingenuous to really argue that they don't, even to the American electorate. I think the overriding truth is that politics is about engagement, and it's a battle - just because you have the 'right' ideas doesn't mean you will win. You need to engage, encourage, and motivate people to vote for you - which the Clinton campaign could not do.
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#338If you comment, please take extra care to do so civilly and substantively, in the spirit of this site.
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#339As an outsider...what the hell did you guys just do? There are many, many reasons for Trump's election. Maybe it's time to rethink a bit about how you guys do politics?[0] Distrust of the establishment (of which HRC was the perfect embodiment). Jobs which have disappeared forever which were promised to be brought back. And as software developers for a lot of us here, maybe it is time to get more of us to think about…
This is what is so amazing to me: there was a massive surge in anti-establishment sentiment, from Sanders on the left to Trump on the right. It was unparalleled in my lifetime. Yet the DNC decided to run a candidate who is basically the epitome of Washington establishment? It's embarrassing.
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You can do what the democrats have talked about, which we have successfully done in Nordic countries which is to spend a lot of money on re-educating the workforce and making sure those at the bottom get decent skills. I grew up in a rustbelt like industrial town in Norway. We has shipyards, glass factory, paper mill, textile industry, lock systems etc. Almost all of it got closed down and moved overseas as I grew up…
You can't compare Norway, a high educated small country full of petromoney with the rest of the world. The recipe can't be reproduced.