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Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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Post by ENGNR »

tsuraan wrote: post #326
Koshkin wrote: post #283

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have always found it surprising that someone may honestly think that upvoting and downvoting can be used to express agreement or disagreement. If you strongly agree or disagree, just reply with a post of your own; up/downvoting is there so you could express your opinion on the quality of the post rather than whether you think that what it is saying is true or false.

Paul Graham, who started HN, is one of those people: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=117171 . Generally, HN strongly discourages "me too" or "i agree" type comments. We prefer to just upvote comments in order to keep discussion threads interesting and on-topic.

It's pretty much upvote to agree, downvote if it doesn't contribute.

Of course the next highest child is then always the next most agreed upon counter argument since they should reply instead of downvote, which can make HN feel a bit contrary but full of good discourse

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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Post by k-mcgrady »

lucb1e wrote: post #312
k-mcgrady wrote: post #306

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would you have your phone on while giving a presentation? Also, it's not a very Messenger specific problem - they could do the same thing with your actual phone number.

Well I usually put my phone to silent during class and especially presentations. The person you commented on mentioned there is no silent mode. Of course you could turn the phone off entirely, but then it takes longer to turn on, and you have to unlock the SIM card again... quite a hassle just to make facebook's apps shut up. I don't know though, I've never used Facebook Messenger.

If you silence your device it will silence everything on it. No noise, no vibrations, no way for apps to bypass it (iPhone at least, and I'm pretty sure it's the same with Android).

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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Post by sotojuan »

oneloop wrote: post #230

It's really sad to me to see a bunch of intelligent people here being led like sheep by Facebook (no, this isn't a sheeple post, hear me out) Virtually everyone here complains "Facebook does XYZ really bad but I still use them because all my friends are there". I have a solution. Why don't you get all your friends off there? Pick a platform that you really like and start evangelising. The only reason why Facebook has…

I've known of a few people that have tried that and ended up with less people to talk to. Most people don't care about news like these or the privacy complaints. Messenger is just the easiest way to get in touch with people in their social circle. Unless it's your significant other or best friend, they're not going to install a new app and make a new account just for you.

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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Post by nowaq »

Did they notice people are uninstalling FB app? :) It's a bit scary to see how they grab vast amounts of our attention. I've heard they aim to make the Messenger a "business" communication app that replaces email. I sincerely hope they will not succeed.

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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Post by cs702 »

Free market ideologues would have you believe that companies have only incentives to improve their products and services, giving customers what they want, so the company can earn more. Competition will ensure this happens, right?

Not in this case. Here we have a company that has incentives to cripple its product and services, taking away from many customers features they clearly use and want, and giving them something else they clearly don't want, so the company can earn more.

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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Post by bfrog »

Uh, I pretty much hate the facebook app these days because they're always trying to cram their overly zealous messenger app down my proverbial throught. No facebook, I don't want a bazillion notifications and another massive app on my tiny phone.

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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Post by omarforgotpwd »

calsy wrote: post #279

So much complaining. The web app version is crap, of course they want to move people over to the app. Why waste resources on an inferior web version when they can focus their attention on the very successful mobile app. Its just good business sense and seeing that 99.9999999999% of Facebook users already have Messenger installed, its a non issue.

Seriously, I am surprised by how out of touch most people on HN are. I'm 23 and everyone I know uses this app, and it's pretty good. One of the main reasons people use it is that you can type in the name of anyone you've ever met and start talking to them instantly. The idea that people are going to stop using Facebook because they no longer support messaging on the mobile web is laughable any place but HN. Any serious FB messaging user knows the app is much better than the mobile web client, which nobody uses.

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Post by NEDM64 »

cs702 wrote: post #335

Free market ideologues would have you believe that companies have only incentives to improve their products and services, giving customers what they want, so the company can earn more. Competition will ensure this happens, right? Not in this case. Here we have a company that has incentives to cripple its product and services, taking away from many customers features they clearly use and want, and giving them somethin…

Their main product is the Facebook feed. And they seem to give people what they want.

Too bad that what people want is to just turn off their brain.

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