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Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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I did the opposite and can't believe how much better my life had gotten because my iPhone is just a simple tool that I use for communications and don't think about it as a project. With Android, I always wanted to tweak silly things and run Cyanogenmod because the handset firmware was always so bad and vulnerable. On several occasions I'd bricked my phone requiring hours of recovery, or had transient failures of cell…

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Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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post #70

I did the opposite and can't believe how much better my life had gotten because my iPhone is just a simple tool that I use for communications and don't think about it as a project. With Android, I always wanted to tweak silly things and run Cyanogenmod because the handset firmware was always so bad and vulnerable. On several occasions I'd bricked my phone requiring hours of recovery, or had transient failures of cell…

> I did the opposite and can't believe how much better my life had gotten because my iPhone is just a simple tool that I use for communications and don't think about it as a project. With Android, I always wanted to tweak silly things and run Cyanogenmod because the handset firmware was always so bad and vulnerable. On several occasions I'd bricked my phone requiring hours of recovery, or had transient failures of cell service and communications issues. I guess if you have the right level of discipline, apathy, or use a Nexus device that may be more Apples to Apples (harhar).

I did the same. Outsourcing mobile to Apple made my life easier too.

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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I for one could never go back to Android. iOS is just such a better user experience, much more fluid. Android feels like Cisco Voice's product lineup, all pieced together. fragmented applications and processes that dont work side-by-side with eachother. The other reason, which is huge to me, is the hardware. I am huge on how things feel in the hand and in my opinion apple's hardware is just far superior to anything o…

> fragmented applications and processes that dont work side-by-side with eachother

Are you joking? I just tried to email some screenshots to myself from my iPhone. Couldn't do it. It only let me send one image at a time. There was literally no way to make multiple attachments, and if you are trying to attach something that's not in Camera roll, good luck! (I only went the email route because its 2016 and I still can't just send a file from my iPhone to my computer via Bluetooth).

On Android, its a simple matter of selecting all the photos (in pretty much ANY gallery app, doesn't have to be the OS included one), and hitting share: I could send to my computer via Bluetooth, or attach to an email, in like 2 clicks.

Android's interoperability and system for how apps can share data and work with each other is unparalleled. iOS has a long way to go on that front...

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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post #7

Wow. I'm a long time Android user and probably pay more attention than most, and I had no idea web apps had gotten quite this nice. Currently the only web app / web shortcut I have installed is the HackerWeb app[0], which is nice but clearly not taking advantage of all of the functionality it could. I "installed" Flipkart Lite and the Voice Memos demo app to see the state of the world. Clearly it's possible to build…

I read the post, then looked up ServiceWorkers and this progressive web app stuff, and it doesn't seem that useful. You don't have access to files, or hardware (Bluetooth/sensors), or notifications, so what's the actual use case?

It seems like it's just a way to be able to make cross-origin requests in a browser. Can it even do that? Seemed like it had a bunch of security considerations that make even that not useful.

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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post #78

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These things that you mentioned, you didn't really have to do. Buy a nexus, and it's as clean as it gets. What you're saying is that you left the freedom of your device to jail yourself into simple interface...? I do agree though, that those samsung/lg/etc phone have lots crapwares + carrier crapwares.

It amazes me when Android users say that the answer to fleeing a walled garden where one company controls the hardware, the software, and the app store is by buying a phone (a Nexus) where one company provides the hardware and software and if you want to stay safe, only use their app store.

Because they like the awesome hardware, they can install the software from another company if they wish and even use other app stores they trust, or better yet make their own and run them instantly without a hassle. It is the freedom of choice. And the quality of the hardware that makes them say that!

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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post #70

I did the opposite and can't believe how much better my life had gotten because my iPhone is just a simple tool that I use for communications and don't think about it as a project. With Android, I always wanted to tweak silly things and run Cyanogenmod because the handset firmware was always so bad and vulnerable. On several occasions I'd bricked my phone requiring hours of recovery, or had transient failures of cell…

Linux user chiming in. This reminds of the people who complain about running Linux :-) When they run linux, they start tweaking all sorts of things: trying to run wayland master or run Arch (which is a great distro if you know what you are doing). And more often than not, they come out frustrated. Then the proceed to claim how awesome Mac is since everything just "works". So yeah, I totally get what you are saying :-…

I made the switch to OS X because I couldn't trust myself not to tinker. Everything I broke, I eventually fixed, but that isn't something I wanted to deal with once I started using my computer for my work.

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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My first smart phone was an iPhone 4. After switching to the Galaxy S3, I was sold!

Apple is good for users who was a device that is simple, set in it's was and easy to use. It makes it hard to break. Android makes a phone that has unlimited potential, but at your own risk. As an IT, I'm a tinkerer... so I prefer the later. :) All about preferences.

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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post #80

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> Except that Android is the open one that is implementing agreed upon standards, and Apple is the laggard left behind. Given that many of these things are potential exploit vectors, I am not inclined to fault Apple for taking its time to implement them. Also, we are at the point where the standards are driven by a select few companies. If I recall correctly, those are Apple, Google, Microsoft and Mozilla. Opera used…

Do you have any evidence for your claim about "potential exploit vectors", or is it just speculation? I don't know if you can claim Chrome is insecure, simply because it supports more web standards. e.g. look at the results of the recent pwn2own contest: http://venturebeat.com/2016/03/18/pwn2own-2016-chrome-edge-a... There are other variables that probably have a greater impact on the security of a browser.

In the past, changes to internet standards were about enabling better presentation of webpages. Now changes involve JavaScript APIs that access things traditionally reserved for plugins (which were a security nightmare) and native applications. Doing that can pose unforeseen security risks, such as the supercookie:

http://money.cnn.com/2015/01/09/technology/security/super-co...

Not to mention, I posted elsewhere in this discussion that WebBluetooth seems like a way that an attacker with control of a server can run attacks against bluetooth devices that he otherwise would not have been able to access without breaking out of the sandbox. Once in control of one of those bluetooth devices, it would be possible to attack the system from the compromised devices. It is like giving unrestricted network access to Javascript once a user clicks accept (and they almost all would), except with a different network technology where devices all trust each other not to do malicious things.

Given that security flaws can happen when new features are used in unforeseen ways, I am happy to see Apple take its time under the assumption that it is taking its time to implement things correctly.

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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post #196

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I got a cheap-o Moto G for $170 3 years ago and love that thing. It is small 4" only, got reasonable updates (up to 5.1 now). It is simple to use. Yeah Google owns my life, but I wouldn't feel better if Apple owned it instead. Never felt the need to tweak hardware, or run Cyanogen and others. Once I wanted more memory for my music. But then deleted some of the music I didn't want and was fine. Best part if I sit on i…

> Yeah Google owns my life, but I wouldn't feel better if Apple owned it instead Why? Apple makes money selling you hardware. Google makes money selling you to advertisers. I'm not comfortable with any company figuratively "owning" my life, but if I have to choose, the one that isn't built on scummy ads will get my money every single time.

Whenever I try to get iCloud actually working [1] I kind of wish Apple was actually interested in owning my data ;-)

Rants apart, this fact:

> Apple makes money selling you hardware. Google makes money selling you to advertisers.

has a direct consequence: cloud services made by Apple are generally inferior compared to those made by Google[2].

Now of course if you value privacy over everything you might prefer to save your data locally rather than in the cloud, but I have too many devices lost or broken to go that way.

[1] https://support.apple.com/kb/index?q=backup+could+not+be+com...

[2] http://www.theverge.com/2016/2/3/10900612/walt-mossberg-appl...

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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post #246

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You don't maintain CPU's. 1,000,000,000+ parts and it just works.

CPUs don't have a billion parts. The unpackaged die is one carefully crafted solid.

Oceans have different parts and are far more homogeneous than CPU's. Further individual transistors can break making parts a meaningful distinction.

PS: We call them silicon chips, but there are several tiny blobs of different chemicals involved. The process is closer to 3D printing than you might think.

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