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Re: The new MacBook

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Post by outworlder »

olso wrote: post #234
sauere wrote: post #176

If i was to buy a new MacBook today it would definitely be the 13" Air or Pro. It's a cool device, but not for anyone doing serious dev work. The DO-IT-ALL-USB-C might be a neat idea, but it practice it means that i have to carry a ton of (expensive!) adapters around with me for the next few years. And then there is performance. I can live with 1,5GHz /w Turbo or whatever.... but 1,1GHz? That is painful.

I want to buy the updated 13". How much RAM does Yosemite take up? Not sure if I should go for the 16 GB version.

Not that much. I'd worry much more about the types of apps you need to run.

Re: The new MacBook

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Post by jcomis »

ghostly_s wrote: post #279
crystaln wrote: post #264

I've been considering upgrading from an Air to a Pro for the retina display and was waiting for this update. Now this has me a bit confused because the new MacBook has a retina display. It seems like Pro may yet be the best choice for anyone doing demanding work, because the processor is 2x+ faster. While the 13" Pro may be a brick compared to this new MacBook, it's still incredibly light.

It's looking like this new MBAir will actually perform 20% worse than the current-gen Airs due to the Core M processor. If performance is at all a factor in what you do I don't think it's even worth considering. http://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp%5B%5D=2465&cmp%5...

This is not an Air. This is a "Macbook".

The Air line was also upgraded to core i5 and i7 today.

Re: The new MacBook

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Post by Tehnix »

aet wrote: post #221
jader201 wrote: post #210

Is the world really as obsessed with smallness as Apple thinks it is? From what I keep hearing (and this is anecdotal, of course), it seems that most people would prefer to (reasonably) maximize the battery life with the downside of adding a bit more heft. Of course, there's always a balance that has to be stricken, but it seems like Apple always pushes much more to the side of size over battery vs. what seems to be…

Where do you need the battery life? (I mean what scenario)

At university I move around a lot, and often there isn't a power plug because tables are out in the middle of rooms or something. I could try and sit next to a wall or something, but why bother when battery isn't a concern.

Re: The new MacBook

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Post by akhilcacharya »

hobbe80 wrote: post #216

I wonder if it would be possible to build a USB-C charger where the tip is connected to the rest of the cord with magnets. I don't see why we would need to give up the disconnect-when-tripping-on-the-cord just because the final connector now becomes more solidly connected to the laptop?

That depends on how magnetic the body is. Unless you mean a magnetic breakaway cable, but that would mean a dongle that would stick out all the time.

I think both could be marketable if this gets big in a generation or two.

Re: The new MacBook

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Post by DIVx0 »

ben174 wrote: post #312
DIVx0 wrote: post #90

I'm really sorry to see magsafe go. Between my dogs and kids I would have gone though a dozen macbooks without magsafe. I sincerely hope this no magsafe or single port thing goes into the MBPs as well.

I've seen a lot of people disappointed by this, but - correct me if I'm wrong - If you were to trip over a micro USB cord it would simply disconnect as well, similar to MagSafe, right? I mean, it's not as elegant as magsafe but it certainly wouldn't drag your whole laptop off the table, would it?

Probably depends on the direction of the force and other conditions but I'd imagine the male part of the connector would break or bend in some scenarios.

Re: The new MacBook

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Post by alasdair_ »

larrys wrote: post #202
bane wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It just means we're going to stay stuck in dongle hell. When I'm on the road the minimalism of a Mac is nice, but at my desk, hooked up to everything I really need for heavy work, my desktop is a cluster-f of cables and adapters and wires.

Other than cost (which is certainly a factor) I guess I've never understood why people schlep around a laptop and use the same laptop for their desktop by plugging in cables. I know people do this who could easily afford an additional more powerful desktop. I use a MacPro driving 3 27' displays and also have a few portables as well. It's just a matter of synching info. I can't imagine having to deal with hooking up a…

>It's just a matter of synching info.

Synchronizing is hard. That's the problem.

I want to close my laptop after a day at the office and be able to continue working on the train or an airplane, immediately, if I need to.

This isn't easy to do without having a single machine.

Re: The new MacBook

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Post by lsaferite »

afandian wrote: post #32
mmastrac wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thunderbolt runs over USB-C, as well as DisplayPort. USB 3.1 features re-configurable lines that can negotiate almost any protocol. [1] [2] [1] http://www.anandtech.com/show/8558/displayport-alternate-mod... [2] http://www.anandtech.com/show/8539/usb-power-delivery-v20-an...

I've not read those docs (sorry) but what if I want to run DisplayPort for my monitor and simultaneously plug in an external USB drive? Can a single line switch between protocols?

They will be able to MUX two DP lanes onto two of the USB SS lanes and keep one for USB 3.1 as well.

Also, there are dedicated wires for USB 2.0 as well that are separate from the SS lanes.

Re: The new MacBook

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Post by ykl »

dntrkv wrote: post #307
james-skemp wrote: post #271

A search against the comments returns no results: 2304×1440 resolution and 16:10 aspect ratio? Showing a few co-workers and a quick suggests what I thought: a bit of amazement at 16:10. Does anyone have any insight into why they didn't go with a 16:9 ratio?

Apple uses 16:10 on all of their laptops.

Except for the 11 inch MacBook Air, which is the oddball of the family in that respect.

Re: The new MacBook

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Post by lsaferite »

chatmasta wrote: post #55
toomuchtodo wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is this the end of Thunderbolt as well?

I have two thunderbolt displays daisy chained into the single thunderbolt port on my 2013 MacBook Air. Each display is basically also a dock, with other peripheral ports in the back. It works very well because as I understand it thunderbolt is 10gbps transfer. Does USB-C work the same way?

The DP over Type-C stuff (Alternate Mode) is not hub traversable.

So, you could talk to a single DP device, but that DP device could be a DP MST splitter. This could allow it to act as a DP hub for you to daisy chain a second monitor.

Re: The new MacBook

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Post by jedrek »

bane wrote: post #24
DannyBee wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm glad apple picked this up after so many others pushed it forward :) But 1 port is sad, because now you have to choose between a lot of things (charging, using hdmi, whatever)

It just means we're going to stay stuck in dongle hell. When I'm on the road the minimalism of a Mac is nice, but at my desk, hooked up to everything I really need for heavy work, my desktop is a cluster-f of cables and adapters and wires.

Apple laptops have been limited by a lack of docking ports, which is my favorite use case for having a work and home workstation. Now, instead of hooking up a power cable, monitor cable and USB hub, you slide one connector in. How is that bad?
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