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Elon Musk: To the People of New Jersey

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Re: Elon Musk: To the People of New Jersey

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Elon made enough off PayPal to never have to work.. ever again . Instead he put all of his money into Electric cars, solar power and rockets with a huge chance that he would loose it all (and almost did). I don't think that profit is his motivating factor.

Let's not forget the $500M loan Uncle Sam, er, The American Taxpayers, made to Musk, which in the case of Tesla failing, would have been a write off for us, but in the case of Tesla succeeding, only makes us a bit of interest, while making a billionaire more billions.

Tesla repaid their loan nine years early and is the only American car company to have fully repaid the government ever. This is a company the American Taxpayer should be truly proud of.

Also, do you really believe Elon Musk started an electric car company, a company which builds rockets and one which is the largest residential solar power provider in the country, under the only premise to make more money?

Re: Elon Musk: To the People of New Jersey

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How does the distribution mechanism in itself affect the quality? It's just a way of getting new software on the car. You can have the exact same standards of quality for an update installed over the air as one installed at a service centre.

Except at a service center there's presumably the opportunity to replace the firmware chip or board if they brick it during the update whereas a bad OTA update leaves you little option. OTOH I'd risk a bad OTA update 1% of the time if it meant avoiding the service center the other 99% of the time. And I'm sure a bad update is just a call and a tow away from a fix at a Tesla service center. Unless you're on a road-tri…

I feel like you've uncovered a horror movie plot from the future. Teen girls take off on a road trip in their Tesla Model Z, when an unfortunately timed OTA update leaves them stranded in a land of backwoods hillbillies... with secrets they'd rather stay secret.

Re: Elon Musk: To the People of New Jersey

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There are all sorts of laws on the books that we've agreed are idiotic and are no longer enforced. It's up to the executive to determine which those ones are, and, as time progresses, some laws become so outdated that no rational minded person would ever think of enforcing them. Europeans (mostly Germans) I've talked to about how we do this in the US shake their heads. These shenanigans along with the "speed limit+9m…

Just to clarify for any europeans who might have read this, ""speed limit+9mph" informal rule " - is a rule (at least in California) for what your minimum speed on the freeway/highway should politely be. Anybody traveling slower than this needs to be in the slower right lanes to avoid getting tailgated or inspiring road rage. I've often wondered if anybody traveling at (or just over) the speed limit on the freeway ha…

I'm european and i can tell you that you will get tailgated, headlight-flashed and all around road-raged if you drive at the speed limit in the left-most highway lane in EVERY SINGLE EU country.

You won't get pulled by cops tho.

Re: Elon Musk: To the People of New Jersey

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The easier it is to update software, the less important that it is bug-free.

Until that bug causes a car to drive unexpectedly into a wall in the interim time until you've sent out a patch. The importance of being bug-free is much more driven by the potential damage caused by a bug than how quickly you can update the software.

do you think that the gasoline cars don't have software updates? their engine is nowadays all software controlled and theres a fw update plug, generally under your driving wheel.

and they'll update it when they service the car. how is that software any safer than the OTA?

its not.

Re: Elon Musk: To the People of New Jersey

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I think the major point is that we want to be on his side. As long as hes not saying or doing something completely wrong, I'm sure we all agree there are huge issues with the govt, laws and corruption and that any strong voice attempting to fix this is a good thing.

There's also a lack in innovation and lead from the US market in various technologies.

Elon Musk took all of these things head on and keeps doing so all the time. What's not to like, I would ask?

I am 100% behind the man as long as he keeps doing so.

Re: Elon Musk: To the People of New Jersey

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There are all sorts of laws on the books that we've agreed are idiotic and are no longer enforced. It's up to the executive to determine which those ones are, and, as time progresses, some laws become so outdated that no rational minded person would ever think of enforcing them. Europeans (mostly Germans) I've talked to about how we do this in the US shake their heads. These shenanigans along with the "speed limit+9m…

Just to clarify for any europeans who might have read this, ""speed limit+9mph" informal rule " - is a rule (at least in California) for what your minimum speed on the freeway/highway should politely be. Anybody traveling slower than this needs to be in the slower right lanes to avoid getting tailgated or inspiring road rage. I've often wondered if anybody traveling at (or just over) the speed limit on the freeway ha…

I'm pretty sure that "speed limit + 9mph" refers to the unwritten rule that you are allowed to exceed the speed limit by 9mph and not get a ticket. Cops don't typically pull people over for less than 10mph over the limit on the freeway. They are allowed to (and do at times if they have a particular bug in their hat or have a quota to fill) but that is not the norm.

Re: Elon Musk: To the People of New Jersey

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So now none of the money or jobs stay in NJ... I don't see the logic. If they wanted the tax money they would want Tesla to sell a lot of cars in NJ.

That's not the right way to think about it. Taxes are only a small portion of the economic activity a bunch of car dealerships in a state generate. A dealer gets to keep some of that profit margin that Tesla gets 100% of right now. They then pay the dealership owner (1 job), the receptionist (2 jobs), the finance guy (3 jobs) and pay the commission to the sales guy (4 jobs) and then you bring back the car to the repa…

Your fallacy is... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_broken_window

Re: Elon Musk: To the People of New Jersey

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Unless you're on a motorcycle. Then none of the attendants want to deal with you -- they hand you the gas pump nozzle and you do the filling. I don't know what the party line is to justify the gas attendant rules. If it's "consumer safety" then it's bullshit.

> I don't know what the party line is to justify the gas attendant rules. Blatant employment protectionism. Every time it comes up on a ballot the "statement in favor" is always primarily employment protectionism. The arguments are generally of the form "if we allowed self service, nobody would pay for full service, and those jobs would go away". As with many similarly obnoxious laws: Portland votes for it, the rest…

I figure this will change soon enough, now that $15 minimum wage laws are becoming popular causes in this neck of the woods. The broken-window fallacy is about to get really expensive for Oregonians.

Re: Elon Musk: To the People of New Jersey

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Although personally satisfying for the writer, that is a pretty good example of something never to write in a letter that you want to positively influence a situation. Referring to a scandal by a politician when lobbying isn't really going to work, and all letters addresses "to the people" are lobbying.

Is this just your opinion, or do you have something to back that up? Because I thought it was a pretty effective piece of writing.

Personal experience with watching the consequence to someone who caused about the same offence.
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