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Re: Popcorn Time – Watch torrent movies instantly

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Why does it always need to be about the money?? Imagine giving a candy to a child. You make the child happy, and that is your reward. Or do you expect the child to say something like "let me pay you"?...

I 100% do not understand this argument. So, because I enjoy something, I shouldn't have to pay for it? Can you please flush out this argument a bit?

If I give something to you it's entirelly up to me to decide whether I want you to give me money. If I want to give (for free) and enjoy doing that, please stop saying "take my money", because I don't want it. If I wanted your money I would have said so or at least hinted you. In other words, don't spoil the moment.

On the other hand, may be it's just me being too sentimental... Or may be it's because I grew up in an evironment where not everything was measured by the money, and giving and helping others without expecting to be "paid" was relatively normal.

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If taxis go out of business, you can still walk. If people stop making new movies, you can't watch new movies. (You can still watch old movies of course, so if you restrict your downloading to old movies, and not fairly recent releases, your argument works.)

I often wonder what would happen if the de facto standard in an industry were to disappear overnight. If taxis disappeared, would more people find ways to participate in carpool/rideshare systems? If we stopped making new movies, would people learn to appreciate older classical films they'd never considered before? Surely there have already been more movies produced than a person could consume in a single lifetime, t…

A great book about this is Concerning the Spiritual in Art by Wassily Kandinsky http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/5321

The argument being that art is intensely connected to the time in which it is created, and the function of art in the context of the progression of humanity requires that artists constantly make new art for the current generation.

Re: Popcorn Time – Watch torrent movies instantly

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I clicked "12 years a slave", a movie I have not yet had an opportunity to watch and it started streaming in less than a minute in high quality. I immediately quit the application as it should not be so easy to benefit from someone else's hard work without compensating them. Please, movie people, let me pay for this. You might kill the cinemas, but you'll still get paid.

> Please, movie people, let me pay for this. Pay for what, the ability to stream a movie? Don't we already have a dozen options for that? I don't think this interesting as a feature, it's the backend technology that's interesting. On a related note, Spotify does something similar to get music to listeners by having existing users upload to new listeners.

I missed where anyone gave us the option of streaming new releases online.

Movie theaters offer neither convenience nor comfort. It's 2014, not 1914. Further, they are epicenters of disease transfer and otherwise completely and utterly dominated by inconsiderate jackasses who, to the benefit of everyone else, should actually probably stay at home.

It's hard to imagine that we live in a world where something so absurdly ancient is still the norm. They want us to endure that AND to pay $13 to watch a new movie. The 400% ROI on the first weekend of release isn't enough, they then want us to pay $20 to "own" the movie at home (and by own, I mean have access to watch it, because they learned that it's really bad to ever give anyone an actual copy of anything, because copyright law actually then prevents them from making even more money later on). Then maybe at some arbitrary point in the future, you can pay to watch a movie once, but for $5. Long after that movie is irrelevant. As a last attempt to extract money from a dead thing, and only as an attempt to make more money. It's in no way about your convenience, nor access to the work.

Imagine if music was still the same way. For every new work, radio stations are prevented from broadcasting the music at all. You have to go to an audio theater where you will sit in an uncomfortable chair with food stuffs splattered all over the floor, all the while battered from all directions with ads and menus for overpriced food and drink for "your enjoyment." You will listen using headphones that have clearly not been cleaned in a month, next to a person with a screaming child and another person who just sneezed a fine mist over 40 sq ft, much of which landed all over your face. Now you can listen to the latest and greatest the music industry has to offer. And oh yes, for this fine pleasure you WILL pay $13. No option just to hear the cover, not even at a reduced price. This is, after all, the bastion of decadence, a truly wondrous place where you should feel privileged to have access to the latest and greatest in entertainment! This is how kings live, and you'll like it!

Then 3-100 months later, chosen arbitrarily, you'll be given the "option" of having access to listen to that music whenever you wish for a mere $10 fee, and 18-500 months after that, finally, radios can start playing it, but only if they pay enormous sums of money to the copyright holders, which requires them to ask you for a subscription fee. What the fuck? You want to listen to music for free on the radio? LOL. Shut the fuck up and listen to my ads.

Clearly that model wouldn't work for music. They tried it, and it failed, so they actually adopted a better model, or rather they got out of the way and let innovators make things so convenient that piracy has become a mere historical oddity. I don't remember the last time I've even heard of someone pirating music.

So why do we still have these evil fucks insisting it works for movies? It very, very clearly doesn't. Piracy is a clear symptom of this. What happens when piracy becomes so easy and so simple that the barrier to entry gets lowered to nothing, so that everyone is suddenly able to experience availability as it should be? My sincerest hope is that it kills the profitability of the movie industry as we know it. Maybe then it may be replaced with something that actually places value in the consumer and their interaction with the work, not solely in the work itself.

Re: Popcorn Time – Watch torrent movies instantly

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Why does it always need to be about the money?? Imagine giving a candy to a child. You make the child happy, and that is your reward. Or do you expect the child to say something like "let me pay you"?...

Just for fun, apply that logic to your work.

When I work, and want to be paid, I say upfront "I can do this for you, and it will cost you X". However if I say "here, please, take this, it's for you" it means exactly that. I don't want you to put any monetary value. Because there's a chance you might undervaluate it...

Re: Popcorn Time – Watch torrent movies instantly

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I clicked "12 years a slave", a movie I have not yet had an opportunity to watch and it started streaming in less than a minute in high quality. I immediately quit the application as it should not be so easy to benefit from someone else's hard work without compensating them. Please, movie people, let me pay for this. You might kill the cinemas, but you'll still get paid.

You can rent 12 years a slave on HD for $6, or buy it for $15 on Google Play. https://play.google.com/store/movies/details/12_Years_a_Slav...

Google Play only has an "Add to Wishlist" button for me.

Re: Popcorn Time – Watch torrent movies instantly

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> it should not be so easy to benefit from someone else's hard work without compensating them. Nonsense. I benefit from the work of Mozart and feel no need to compensate anyone. There are real issues with funding mechanisms and creative work in a shareable digital world, but we can reject the idea that you should always pay for anything that is beneficial. If you want to give gifts to creative folks you like, you can…

The musicians/recording engineers/conductor/support staff don't deserve to be paid?

If people aren't willing to, nope. This is a slippery slope and we can't afford to pay every employee of dying professions forever.

I think utilities and reasonable physical safety and healthcare should be paid for by the people. But for the rest, the free market will work better than an infinity of laws and incentives to put people in a corner to pay up. Money, uh, finds a way...

Re: Popcorn Time – Watch torrent movies instantly

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If you look at this file here: https://github.com/popcorn-time/popcorn-app/blob/master/js/t... It sends usage data to Google Analytics. I can see how this can translate into you getting caught. Be careful. Even if you don't have a 'trackingId' set it still sends GET requests to http://google.com/

Doesn't it already send your IP to the torrent tracker and anyone who asks, because that's how torrent works?

Re: Popcorn Time – Watch torrent movies instantly

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Noooooooooo (An analytics junkie)

Convince your customers to use self-hosted analytics software instead. Of course you understand the danger of a single entity (google-analytics.com) tracking almost every website you visit. I block it with Ghostery.

I'm pretty sure I'm screwed when it comes to Google tracking me, between Chrome, Gmail, Google.com, etc... Analytics is the least of my worries.

Re: Popcorn Time – Watch torrent movies instantly

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I clicked "12 years a slave", a movie I have not yet had an opportunity to watch and it started streaming in less than a minute in high quality. I immediately quit the application as it should not be so easy to benefit from someone else's hard work without compensating them. Please, movie people, let me pay for this. You might kill the cinemas, but you'll still get paid.

Copyright is such bullshit. I have a personal policy of never going to the theater to see any film, despite how badly I want to.

Paying these animals only encourages their deviant behavior. If you value a free and open Internet, you will starve Hollywood until it dies.

Hollywood only continues to exist because people like you keep feeding them. Don't feed the animals.

Re: Popcorn Time – Watch torrent movies instantly

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> it should not be so easy to benefit from someone else's hard work without compensating them. Nonsense. I benefit from the work of Mozart and feel no need to compensate anyone. There are real issues with funding mechanisms and creative work in a shareable digital world, but we can reject the idea that you should always pay for anything that is beneficial. If you want to give gifts to creative folks you like, you can…

I'm a left of center guy, but this kind of thinking is a very ugly slippery slope. Its not that anyone should always expect to pay for things that are beneficial, its the fact that people who very recently WORKED to create the very thing you are benefiting from should be PAID for their work. If everyone followed your logic, we wouldn't have 12 Years A Slave. The props cost money. The costumes cost money. The cameras…

The problem is digital isn't "real". For example, imagine I create a product called a "pet rock". Let's say this product is simply... a rock. Anyone who has access to outside can basically make their own copy. Is it their fault for "copying" without paying? Or is it my fault for making a product that is extremely easy to copy?

U.S. IP law is so outdated and in need of major reforms.

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