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Re: Why I moved to Miami

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Post by Crake »

grogenaut wrote: post #290
Crake wrote: post #173

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Ah, there are some good places in the midwest, too. But there's many more independent restaurants here, all doing different things. I don't know what a "real" restaurant is to you, but to me, the biggest city in the united states certainly has more than a few of them. Compare this to where I grew up: the only places to eat closeby were mcdonalds, wendy's, and burger king type places. We didn't even have (and still do…

Go into any city in the Midwest and you'll find plenty of good non chain restraints. I'm not disagreeing with the mass of restaurants in nyc. I'm saying the food tastes better closer to the source. I'm sorry you choose to live somewhere that only had McDonald's close.

Uh, I didn't "choose" to live there, considering I was a kid. That doesn't change the fact that most of the midwest is sparsely populated and has little to no food selection. The place I lived as a kid was still a city, despite your claim that "any midwest city" has better dining than the biggest city in the nation.

We have plenty of food close to the source here in nyc, too. Try union square on a saturday, or any one of the many places that makes things from local ingredients. It's actually much more common to see that here than the midwest. Plus, there are tons of different ethnic food places that aren't even available in less diverse states.

There's also this thing called "the Atlantic ocean." Good luck getting fresh sea food where you live, if being ~close to the source~ is so important to you.

Re: Why I moved to Miami

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Post by snogglethorpe »

wpietri wrote: post #200
leif wrote: post #97

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LA has a lot of good food, SF only has good burritos.

I presume this is just trolling, but in case you actually think that, for New York, Michelin lists 7 three-star restaurants, 9 two-star, and 46 one-star. San Francisco's numbers are 2, 6, and 39. [1] So not as high, but given that the SF Metro area has a third the population of New York, we do ok. (For those unfamiliar, Michelin stars are sort of like the Academy Awards of food. Even a 1-star restaurant is an extraor…

You have to be careful though, because Michelin-starred restaurants aren't where most people eat, and the correlation between the sort of high-end exotics that get the stars and the overall food-scene is going to vary from place to place... It can go either way of course.

If you're a super rich socialite, then yeah, focus on the stars, but otherwise....er, well. [No diss on Michelin-starred restaurants intended! I've eaten at such places a couple of times in my life and they were very nice.]

Re: Why I moved to Miami

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Post by snogglethorpe »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #154
grogenaut wrote: post #147

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2 are in neighboring "counties" in seattle. Wooh boring seattle.

Kirkland and Bellevue are both in king county.

They're rather distant culturally though: compared to Seattle proper, Kirkland and Bellevue are whitebread, suburban, relatively conservative.

Of course compared to the rest of the state...

Re: Why I moved to Miami

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Post by oijaf888 »

moron4hire wrote: post #85
leif wrote: post #72

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No, I've been around the block. There is a legitimate and drastic difference between everywhere else (in the U.S. and Europe, at least) and this city. The only other place in the U.S. that competes is L.A., and S.F. but only for burritos (why doesn't NYC have burritos?).

I've eaten well in every major city of the east coast, and a few in the UK. NYC is a monoculture of food. A distinct culture of its own, but a monoculture nonetheless. You won't find good BBQ in NYC. Decent fried chicken is easier to find in some backwards farm town of Pennsylvania than it is in NYC. I still assert that the best burger in the world is in Harrisburg, PA, and I specifically look and test everywhere I g…

Where in Harrisburg? I've found many burgers in NYC to be substantially better than anything I was able to find in Harrisburg, admittedly more expensive.

Good fried chicken, I would expect can be found outside of midtown/downtown Manhattan although I haven't explicitly gone looking. Good BBQ is pretty easy to find, especially compared to most places on the East Coast, obviously it doesn't compare much to SC or KC proper.

Re: Why I moved to Miami

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Post by oijaf888 »

grogenaut wrote: post #293
wpietri wrote: post #200

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I presume this is just trolling, but in case you actually think that, for New York, Michelin lists 7 three-star restaurants, 9 two-star, and 46 one-star. San Francisco's numbers are 2, 6, and 39. [1] So not as high, but given that the SF Metro area has a third the population of New York, we do ok. (For those unfamiliar, Michelin stars are sort of like the Academy Awards of food. Even a 1-star restaurant is an extraor…

They also tend to like really pretentious bullshit in their restaurants. So you have to watch out.

Some of the ones in NYC that have 1 star appear to just be regular American style Chinese takeout type places. Not sure how pretentious they are (or can be).

Re: Why I moved to Miami

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

snogglethorpe wrote: post #323
seanmcdirmid wrote: post #154

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Kirkland and Bellevue are both in king county.

They're rather distant culturally though: compared to Seattle proper, Kirkland and Bellevue are whitebread, suburban, relatively conservative. Of course compared to the rest of the state...

Basically, Bellevue and Kirkland (as well as Kenmore, Bothell, Renton, etc...) are just like any other suburb outside of the Bay Area. As for the rest of the state, most of my family lives in the Spokane area and were originally from Walla Walla...

Re: Why I moved to Miami

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Post by erohead »

redthrowaway wrote: post #81
hackula1 wrote: post #29

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As someone who grew up in Milwaukee and moved to Charleston, I agree 100%. One of my largest clients is in Milwaukee now and I can say definitively that I have lost all tolerance for that bitter cold. And to all you Canadians living north of the wall... I don't know how you do it.

Being in Vancouver/Victoria helps. It's basically Bay Area climate.

Haha. Don't think so... Palo Alto = it rained once since May so far. Not exactly Vancouver weather.

Re: Why I moved to Miami

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Post by alxp »

aimhb wrote: post #142
mbreese wrote: post #49

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Yeah, but how many people know where ORD is without having to think about it for a minute.

Quick! What's MCO? You guessed it — Orlando.

It's a shibboleth in social media to show that you travel by air often. It's even sillier when Canadians do it because what the everloving crap does YYZ or YUL tell you if you don't already know what they mean.

Re: Why I moved to Miami

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Post by turar »

Expat2009 wrote: post #310

Miami is a complete shithole...grew up there and lived there 15 years. Now living in a major western european city for 4 years and almost everything about europe blows the states out of the water

Care to expand? What about taxes?

Re: Why I moved to Miami

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Post by eitally »

malandrew wrote: post #305
garysweaver wrote: post #204

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I think Raleigh is the best bang for the buck for tech, food, drink, and residence anywhere in the U.S. Downtown Raleigh has art festivals, music festivals (Hopscotch, Wide Open Bluegrass), Red Hat amphitheater, and Duke Energy Center for the Performing Arts (including Meymandi Concert Hall, Fletcher Opera Theater, Kennedy Theater, Memorial Auditorium), etc. There are a lot of great restaurants within walking distanc…

Used to live there. Now live in SF. Could never live in Raleigh again and I only go to visit family. It's entirely too car focused and the tech community is trivial in size compared to SF. The only active meetup group I came across while visiting recently with solid engineers was the Ruby Brigade. However with Relevance in Durham, I imagine there is a solid Clojure community in the area as well. If you don't mind car…

It just depends what you're looking for and what you mean when you say "tech commnunity". Most of the big guys have either a major presence or a remote office here, and even more have work-from-homers. Even with Ericsson gone, IBM dwindling and Nortel out of business (but Ciena & Genband are doing great and picked up quite a bit of Nortel real estate in RTP), they've been replaced by Cisco, eXtreme Networks, NetApp, EMC, RedHat, SAS, etc. Heroku, Google, Salesforce, Zend, and a whole bunch more have smaller presences and you regularly run into people working either for startups or smaller tech companies as remote staff. Yes, it's indisputable that the culture is 180 degrees from SV, but if you're past the post-uni honeymoon period and are raising a family, I think most would be hard pressed to quantify SV as preferable to RTP using most measures. Public schools are far better (and there are very good private schools for the so-inclined), everyone is more relaxed, we have four seasons, real estate is affordable (my very nice 4300sqft house in a neighborhood of similar homes was under $500k), and the populace is very well educated (Chapel Hill supposedly has the highest PhD population per capita in the country). It's just that the people living here generally are here because their priorities are different than technology professionals in LA/SF/SV/NY.

And besides all the actual tech companies, there are great tech opportunities in banking if you go to Charlotte, in biotech (all the big pharmas and a lot of the smaller/startups are in and around RTP), and pure science. Just like the Bay Area has Stanford & Berkeley, we have Duke, UNC, and NCSU -- similarly high quality educations, just with a different focus.

In any case, I'm not trying to convince anyone you're wrong, but there are multiple angles to every story and RTP is definitely a good option for a lot of people. Two of my best friends in my neighborhood are relos from California (one from the LA area and one who worked for Heroku in SF), actually.

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