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Post by moubarak »

polymatter wrote: post #309
moubarak wrote: post #277

Earlier quoted context omitted.

so you simply filtered the entire description. fair enough.

its simply what the original discussion was about. the specific reason he is being jailed could be 1st degree murder for all the difference it makes. He wasn't asking help to get out of jail.

that is what i meant. it just happens that the OP is convicted against religion. if it was 1st degree murder id say the same, dont support him on HN. your point of view is clear and straight forward that regardless of the crime, HN is a place where such people can be supported.

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Post by moubarak »

alan_cx wrote: post #288
moubarak wrote: post #110

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offending a religion for no reason is not equal to pissing someone off. i doubt you will be responsible for any judgement with that level of intellect.

Offence is taken, not given. Religious people choose to take offence. They literally don't have to take offence if they don't want to. In doing so, they validate who ever they chose to be offended by, which ironically weakens their religion and themselves personally.

a synonym to offense is attack. an attack is taken not given doesnt make sense.

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Post by cahitonur »

moubarak wrote: post #311
cahitonur wrote: post #292

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since your nickname is moubarek I bet you know who is muhammad. aisha was just six years old when she was betrothed to muhammad, and only nine when the marriage was consummated. It's sahih hadiths. Suit yourself here: Sahih Bukhari volume 5, book 58, number 234

please send me the playboy version of yours which states that he slept with a nine year old. this doesnt state he slept with her nor is it a reference from any holy book. i hope you also understand that this has no place here on HN. if you like please go ahead and use my email from my profile.

are you aware of that you offended muslims by calling Sahih al-Bukhari's book so muhammad's and his entourage's words as playboy magazine?

http://www.sahih-bukhari.com/Pages/Bukhari_5_58.php I hope you know how to scroll down.

btw why are you so obsessive about playboy? In my country we say, man's thoughts are revealed in his speech. No body said they slept. When you first heard marriage, it was sick enough. Now you saw the truth and trying to cover it with "yeah, but they didn't sleep together, it's not written anywhere" . yes i'm talking only about the written part. why he married with a child? go to the nearest mosque and ask your imam. maybe he will tell you.

And I totally agree with you. HN is not the place that you can bullshit freely. Outcast yourself please.

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Post by thaumaturgy »

3a0e8ff4e557 wrote: post #83
jacquesm wrote: post #38

How hard is it to keep it alive? Can I do it for you while you get your stuff sorted out? Do you have a decent lawyer? Would that make a difference? Let me know (email in profile), I'll gladly help you if I can. I second the calls to leave your country but I can see that this may not always be an option.

I have a decent lawyer. It isn't hard to keep alive; heck, I've been running it pretty half-assed for the past almost 2 years. Still, I cannot abandon it totally. Also, I don't think it makes enough revenue to warrant hiring anyone to take care of it, I think. I'd make a loss. And since familiarising with the current code base etc. may require a lot of effort, way more effort than anyone would care to dedicate, unles…

jacquesm is a real stand-up guy by the way. It doesn't count for much, but I'd recommend considering his offer.

I'll also offer to assist (preferably with one or two other people sharing the workload), but details would help a lot. An attorney should be able to ensure that your rights to the business are protected in the meantime.

My email's in my profile.

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Post by geuis »

ryan-allen wrote: post #86
geuis wrote: post #10

Get out of the country ASAP. Come to San Francisco. You won't go to jail here for posting pictures. Apply for asylum or whatever later, but get your butt on a plane ASAP.

Why not Texas? Or Iowa? They're all part of the US that is bound by the immigration laws of your country right? What the hell does SF have to do with it? If only all of the world's persecuted people could move to SF!

Eat your sarcasm.

Because he's posting on HN for advice. Because SF and the Bay Area has a higher proportion of immigrants and human rights organizations than many other areas of the country. Because it's more likely easier to get here if he's in a country like Indonesia. Because I live in SF AND I HAVE A FUCKING COUCH HE CAN SLEEP ON if necessary.

You insensitive pricks make me sick.

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Post by darklajid »

cromulent wrote: post #90
hackerboos wrote: post #66

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Cartoons I think we are referring to.

"Religiously-insensitive photographs" the OP said. If The Onion didn't get in trouble for this one, then the US is safe. Cartoon, not safe for work. http://www.theonion.com/articles/no-one-murdered-because-of-...

I'm mildly amused that a comic depicting various religious figures in a (however weird) sexual act could be considered not safe for work - which seems just a different way to say "Comics like these might offend your coworkers / employer", which .. feels like the reduced, small-scale version of the "crime" the OP is prosecuted for.

It's a harmless picture, a comic, from a satirical magazine. It shouldn't be considered unsafe for work.

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Post by jessaustin »

petsos wrote: post #233
hearty777 wrote: post #188

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Singapore is 100% not a Muslim country. He's probably in Malaysia from the looks of it.

Let me leave this here. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/18/alvin-and-vivian-ja...

Yeah I wondered if that was connected. God damn, what the Malaysian Chinese have to put up with. Every single organization in the nation, public and private, is completely run by Chinese managers, with a few bumiputra cronies as figureheads and a workforce packed with other laid-back Malays. Nothing in that country (and it's a lovely country, one of my favorite to visit) would ever get done without the Chinese. Yet many Malaysians' burning envy of Singapore seems to find its only outlet in abusing their own Chinese, either directly, through the rhetoric of politicians like Mahathir, or through the entrenched quota system. It's been over a decade since I was in the region, but I'll always have sympathy for the Chinese in Malaysia.

Not that Singapore is any shining beacon of freedom. I can certainly imagine the "Happy Ramadan" stunt drawing a stiff fine there. I doubt, though, that any minority in Singapore would need to speak "truth" to power in this way.

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Post by cromulent »

darklajid wrote: post #327
cromulent wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Religiously-insensitive photographs" the OP said. If The Onion didn't get in trouble for this one, then the US is safe. Cartoon, not safe for work. http://www.theonion.com/articles/no-one-murdered-because-of-...

I'm mildly amused that a comic depicting various religious figures in a (however weird) sexual act could be considered not safe for work - which seems just a different way to say "Comics like these might offend your coworkers / employer", which .. feels like the reduced, small-scale version of the "crime" the OP is prosecuted for. It's a harmless picture, a comic, from a satirical magazine. It shouldn't be considered…

Agree wholeheartedly, and obviously so does The Onion. However, given that cultures vary, etc, I thought it best to warn.

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Post by notahacker »

mahmud wrote: post #213
fnordfnordfnord wrote: post #209

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Out of curiosity, why specifically did you change your advice of escaping Malaysia?

It says in #1 that I was afraid he might be in the Mideast. Arabs would hang him with impunity to make an example of him. Malaysia can't: it would be perceived as racially motivated, as he is ethnic Chinese, and Malaysia is already under scrutiny for its race relations.

It's also worth adding that being from a relatively stable, democratic and secular country like Malaysia would make it much harder for him to claim asylum in other countries on the grounds of "religious persecution".
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